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Krita for Windows? When?

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Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:08 am
boudewijn wrote:Thanks for testing! This is definitely a bug, could you report the bug in bugs.kde.org, so it doesn't get lost?


yw, thanks again for developing :)
will do, i'll try and get a report filed tomorrow!
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Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:37 am
With this version and the previous one I'm getting crashes when saving as .kra (fortunately the file saves, but the program shuts down immediately after). These files are 6000 x 3500. Haven't tested with all the other file types or sizes as yet (other than psd, which doesn't crash). Anyone else?

Edit: I just had the same issue with a psd. I think the Ausosave might be still crashing it as well.... This is on Windows 8 64 bit by the way.

Edit again: ...or it could be that I tried to export as a .psd, but .kra was selected in the "Save as type" dropdown... Whatever the case, something's screwwy.


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Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:24 am
boudewijn wrote:Thanks for testing! This is definitely a bug, could you report the bug in bugs.kde.org, so it doesn't get lost?

I was finally able to submit the bug report! Hopefully it's helpful :)
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Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:40 am
Seems I guess it right that Krita_2.7.8.6 is last support for XP.
That's why I've decide register kde forum to find out.
I've notice that programs that made from visual studio 2012 will unable to support XP anymore.
If based with intel cpu(i586) & writen from Win7 or newer. It'd obviously unable to useup with XP.

I've expireince this same issue from Waterfox Web Browser at 18.01 version it's cannot run with XP x64, But 16.01 version can.
I think it's same problem just like Pixia Image Editor 4.80 that last for XP But Pixia 5.41 minimum For vista & above.
I can even tell by notice a big change from Krita XP_2.7.8.2 that size 95MB
which's looks odd from othe installers that mostly size 110MB-140MB.

From now on I'll label it as "Krita XP_2.7.8.6 Final" for XP as Final installer ok? 8-)

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Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:53 am
How many more years you guys want to stay on XP? This is getting ridiculous, really. Its like staying on Amiga and being surprised why there is no more new software for it if Amiga itself works great ;) Give it up already - this isnt wine that is getting better with time.
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Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:15 am
nezumi wrote:Give it up already - this isnt wine that is getting better with time.
;D


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Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:58 pm
nezumi wrote:How many more years you guys want to stay on XP? This is getting ridiculous, really. Its like staying on Amiga and being surprised why there is no more new software for it if Amiga itself works great ;) Give it up already - this isnt wine that is getting better with time.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/ba ... win8-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/babiloan/4OS.png

Trust me, I'm an engineer! 8)
I've lots of places to stay right here.
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Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:57 am
Well... The thing is, I build these packages on my win7 system using msvc2010. The only thing that changed between the current setup and the last that still ran on XP was the addition of OpenEXR. I'm guessing that that's the dependency that brings in the compatibility... The build scripts I use build nearly everything but Qt from scratch, by the way.

For win64, I had it running last Monday. Then I tried to make sure Krita had an app icon and since then I cannot build Krita on win64 anymore. No idea why...

I really am _not_ a Windows guru -- but currently the Windows systems are taking over my office. I've got a win8.1 ultrabook, win8 haswell ultrabook, a Lenovo Helix with win7 pro (64), a partition on my desktop with win6 64 pro, and similar on my work laptop. No xp or vista or win32.
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Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:38 am
grimoire wrote:
nezumi wrote:How many more years you guys want to stay on XP? This is getting ridiculous, really. Its like staying on Amiga and being surprised why there is no more new software for it if Amiga itself works great ;) Give it up already - this isnt wine that is getting better with time.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/ba ... win8-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/babiloan/4OS.png

Trust me, I'm an engineer! 8)
I've lots of places to stay right here.

No hard feelings man - with today's prices of multi-terabyte hard drives it is laughable argument. Unless you have system on SSD drive that MAY be an issue.
But if you want to stay on old system - by all means do that. Just dont ask why the rest of the world doesn't want to time travel 12 years back.
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Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:23 am
For me the issue was more about whether all my ancient (as in 5+ years old) apps and hardware would still work in a post-XP world. If not, then an OS upgrade was going to be a prohibitively expensive proposition... Fortunately most things are working in Win 8 though, and as for the rest, I'll have to live without them for sake of Krita. ;)


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Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:02 am
Well, I can only guess there is too much of personal attachment to the virtual entity going on in here ;). Perhaps even personification of sorts. Its just a tool guys. I have experienced many things that were better before rather then their latest incarnation - pretty much all blockbuster movies that I saw lately, sucked dry from the essence and covered with fake glamour of "eye-popping 3D". But when it comes to software I rarely see that. I guess I have never became to conclusion that old version was better. Maybe to some degree on short term, sure, but not when we are talking in terms of over a decade of development. Just look at Krita itself - her/his "life" on Windows barely started but almost each build can bring massive changes. Can you imagine yourself saying "ow I liked that 2.7 Krita better" when you will have newest "Krita 34" or whatever it will be named? I personally dont. But its all matter of personal view on the subject I suppose.

For the sake of keeping yourself calm however - if you happen to be XP-lover - just lower your expectations. World will not stop, it will evolve and you either adapt or go extinct. New software inevitably will stop to support that old system, no matter how much you oppose that idea. I do understand that to a degree - I dont have win8 and I dont plan to update for now. But do I plan to update in the next 10 years? Hell yeah - unless I want to go out of business I will have to. And so will you. Save yourself a trouble and update now. Or resist as long as you want but that will be a lost war and you know it.
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Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:27 am
Not sure if you're addressing me (?) but I've already made the switch. My reasons for sticking with XP until now were primarily financial, along with the fact that there was little reason to consider upgrading until the Krita builds stopped working.

So no personal attachment going on here. :)


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Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:37 pm
I was generally addressing rapidly shrinking group of people excessively attached to Win XP. No pun intended, just general thoughts ;)
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Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:36 am
Ah ok, no worries.
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Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 am
Not sure whether to keep posting here or in the General Help forum, but this is probably specific to Windows and the latest build, so...

I've been attempting to test Krita in production, but unfortunately I'll have to stop as I'm finding it far too unstable. The main issue is that saving as .kra often elicits a crash just after it saves, or worse, just before it saves; .tif results in either a series of error messages before it saves, or a crash before saving; and .psd sometimes saves a corrupted file containing an image with lines of garbage, and sometimes saves successfully. Incidentally Painter has a similar problem with image corruption if images are large enough.

I've also been trying to replicate some Painter brushes which use 1600 x 1600 greyscale images with size assigned to tilt, and they are extremely slow to draw when the brush size is around 1:1 and tend to cause crashing after a few strokes. I reduced the image to 800 x 800 but still get too many crashes for it to be useable.

This is all with an image size of 6000 x 3500, system is Windows 8 Pro, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT.

It would be helpful if anyone can confirm these things, but in the meantime I'm going to have to fall back on Painter so I can get this job done. Hopefully I'll be back soon!

Thanks,

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