Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

[Moult]

Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:27 am

One of KDE's potential strengths lies in the abilities of the new plasma workspace and activities. However as a user I haven't found a single plasmoid I think I would ever need and activities are left unused.

I was wondering if people did use them and if they did they could post it here with a description of their setup and how it integrates with their workflow. Screenshots required of course! At the same time this might help other users discover creative new ways they could use their desktop.

One of KDE's potential strengths lies in the abilities of the new plasma workspace and activities. However as a user I haven't found a single plasmoid I think I would ever need and activities are left unused.

I was wondering if people did use them and if they did they could post it here with a description of their setup and how it integrates with their workflow. Screenshots required of course! At the same time this might help other users discover creative new ways they could use their desktop.

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:39 am

I'm working on several documents at the same time (well, working is just a word... ). Those documents use data from different sources (graphics and more) so I have one activity for each project with folderviews pointing to appropriate paths (several folderviews on each activity). In addition, I have a "leisure activity" with an image frame and a couple other "nonsenses", like the analog clock. My activities are pretty boring for screenshots, but they help me a lot!

I'm working on several documents at the same time (well, working is just a word... :< ). Those documents use data from different sources (graphics and more) so I have one activity for each project with folderviews pointing to appropriate paths (several folderviews on each activity). In addition, I have a "leisure activity" with an image frame and a couple other "nonsenses", like the analog clock. My activities are pretty boring for screenshots, but they help me a lot!

[annew]

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:43 am

I've never been a heavy user of Desktops, so neither multiple desktops nor activities are hugely useful to me. Plasmoids, however, are a different matter.

I have two small folderviews on the desktop, giving me immediate access to remote drives. I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need, and I prefer not to take up too much desktop space. I love the ability to enter my spreadsheet folder and open the one I want without having to resort to a file manager.

I use yawp, for it's 5-day weather forecast, and the analogue clock for its ability to show me other time-zones - particularly useful if meetings are scheduled in a time-zone different from your own. The pastebin plasmoid is also useful, although an imagebin one might be even more useful to me. Finally, I have the picture frame, which shows me a seasonal slideshow. I used to use the same pictures as desktop backgrounds, but do actually prefer the picture frame, as it gives me a less fussy desktop.

As I said, I rescale plasmoids. All of them fit neatly into the top 30% of my screen, and since I use a theme that has transparency, the effect suits me very well, yet at the same time gives me instant access to tools that are needed daily.

I've never been a heavy user of Desktops, so neither multiple desktops nor activities are hugely useful to me. Plasmoids, however, are a different matter.

I have two small folderviews on the desktop, giving me immediate access to remote drives. I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need, and I prefer not to take up too much desktop space. I love the ability to enter my spreadsheet folder and open the one I want without having to resort to a file manager.

I use yawp, for it's 5-day weather forecast, and the analogue clock for its ability to show me other time-zones - particularly useful if meetings are scheduled in a time-zone different from your own. The pastebin plasmoid is also useful, although an imagebin one might be even more useful to me. Finally, I have the picture frame, which shows me a seasonal slideshow. I used to use the same pictures as desktop backgrounds, but do actually prefer the picture frame, as it gives me a less fussy desktop.

As I said, I rescale plasmoids. All of them fit neatly into the top 30% of my screen, and since I use a theme that has transparency, the effect suits me very well, yet at the same time gives me instant access to tools that are needed daily.

[Moult]

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:08 pm

One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.

"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?

One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.

"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:16 pm

Imagebin support is built right-in to the pastebin applet. Click and drag an image to it, and it'll paste on imagebin. I use it all the time

Anyway... whether or not I use activities much depends on my mood. It's quick enough to add four activities and the activities bar plasmoid to an auto-hiding panel, and I especially use them when I want access to several widgets at once. The folderview is incredibly useful as a widget for me, especially when working on college projects, but for example, I'll have a college project activity, an online services activity and a clean activity "just in case". Sometimes, I don't need all that stuff, so I just go with one activity.

The most appealing thing to me for Plasma is that it kinda makes sense. When I drop a folder on the desktop, I'm usually not interested in having a shortcut to that folder: more often, I'm interested in having quick access to the stuff in that folder. When I drop an image on the desktop, I don't want an icon - I want the image so I can quickly show other people, or just quickly see it myself. PDFs are the same (though the Preview widget is kinda slow to resize - I think Qt 4.6 will help remedy that, though...). Unfortunately, the multimedia widget doesn't work for me, only playing the sound of a video and not the actual video... I expect that will be fixed in KDE 4.4.

What I'm also looking forward to is dropping websites onto the desktop from Konqueror and creating a web browser widget, because, you know... when I drag a web page there, it's usually to get a quick view of that web page, not an icon.


When I demonstrated that to my mum, she rather whole-heartedly agreed, especially when, regardless of what it was she click-'n'-dragged, Windows created icons. I've also shown her KOffice, which she is rather fond of, and Kopete, which she also likes quite a bit (she hated that, on Windows, every chat thingimawhat needed it's own client - she'd have tens of windows open at once when talking to only 4 people. Kopete obviously goes a long way in solving that).

I'm hoping to install Linux on her next computer. Might get her a netbook, since they're shipping with Windows 7 basic, which is INCREDIBLY restrictive. "An upgrade will cost you £70... or £0, depending on what you upgrade to".

One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.

Either Alt+F12, the Show Dashboard widget or the Show Desktop widget. You could also stick them in a panel.

"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?

No, she means that, when the plasmoid is too small for all the files/folders in it, it gives you a scrollbar to see the rest.

Imagebin support is built right-in to the pastebin applet. Click and drag an image to it, and it'll paste on imagebin. I use it all the time :D

Anyway... whether or not I use activities much depends on my mood. It's quick enough to add four activities and the activities bar plasmoid to an auto-hiding panel, and I especially use them when I want access to several widgets at once. The folderview is incredibly useful as a widget for me, especially when working on college projects, but for example, I'll have a college project activity, an online services activity and a clean activity "just in case". Sometimes, I don't need all that stuff, so I just go with one activity.

The most appealing thing to me for Plasma is that it kinda makes sense. When I drop a folder on the desktop, I'm usually not interested in having a shortcut to that folder: more often, I'm interested in having quick access to the stuff in that folder. When I drop an image on the desktop, I don't want an icon - I want the image so I can quickly show other people, or just quickly see it myself. PDFs are the same (though the Preview widget is kinda slow to resize - I think Qt 4.6 will help remedy that, though...). Unfortunately, the multimedia widget doesn't work for me, only playing the sound of a video and not the actual video... I expect that will be fixed in KDE 4.4.

What I'm also looking forward to is dropping websites onto the desktop from Konqueror and creating a web browser widget, because, you know... when I drag a web page there, it's usually to get a quick view of that web page, not an icon.


When I demonstrated that to my mum, she rather whole-heartedly agreed, especially when, regardless of what it was she click-'n'-dragged, Windows created icons. I've also shown her KOffice, which she is rather fond of, and Kopete, which she also likes quite a bit (she hated that, on Windows, every chat thingimawhat needed it's own client - she'd have tens of windows open at once when talking to only 4 people. Kopete obviously goes a long way in solving that).

I'm hoping to install Linux on her next computer. Might get her a netbook, since they're shipping with Windows 7 basic, which is INCREDIBLY restrictive. "An upgrade will cost you £70... or £0, depending on what you upgrade to". :P

[quote]One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.[/quote]
Either Alt+F12, the Show Dashboard widget or the Show Desktop widget. You could also stick them in a panel.
[quote]"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?[/quote]
No, she means that, when the plasmoid is too small for all the files/folders in it, it gives you a scrollbar to see the rest.

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:37 pm

I am a heavy user of ihatethecashew that's it activities or plasmoids seem useless clutter to me

I am a heavy user of ihatethecashew xD that's it activities or plasmoids seem useless clutter to me

[annew]

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:07 pm

One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.

Not really. I routinely run with windows open at around 75% of screen space, only maximising when something I'm doing really does need full-screen. I also fix my most-used apps to position themselves in different parts of the screen, so usually I can see part of any window and just click to bring it to the fore. If I have lots of windows open I may have to minimise an odd one that covers that corner of the screen, but that's all.

"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?

Yes and No. Both folderviews have a scrollbar down the right-hand side. I hover over there and scroll until I can see the required folder, then hover over the folder, and descend through any subfolders, scrolling as necessarily until I find my required file. It's much faster than opening a file manager.

[quote="Moult"]One thing I've always wondered about folderviews is how can you easily access them? It must be dreadfully annoying to have to minimise all the applications to get to the desktop.[/quote]

Not really. I routinely run with windows open at around 75% of screen space, only maximising when something I'm doing really does need full-screen. I also fix my most-used apps to position themselves in different parts of the screen, so usually I can see part of any window and just click to bring it to the fore. If I have lots of windows open I may have to minimise an odd one that covers that corner of the screen, but that's all.

[quote]"I keep them small - they show just three folders - because since scrolling appeared that's all I need" <-- by scrolling do you mean the ability to hover over and go inside directories?[/quote]

Yes and No. Both folderviews have a scrollbar down the right-hand side. I hover over there and scroll until I can see the required folder, then hover over the folder, and descend through any subfolders, scrolling as necessarily until I find my required file. It's much faster than opening a file manager.

[annew]

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:10 pm

Imagebin support is built right-in to the pastebin applet. Click and drag an image to it, and it'll paste on imagebin. I use it all the time

For some reason it has never worked here. The pastebin bit is fine, but I have not succeeded once in getting an image to upload. I thought maybe it was WIP, but if it works for some, perhaps I should post a bug report to find out why it doesn't work for me. Just as a matter of interest, does it post to imagebin or to imageshack? I'm wondering if there is a locale problem. Posting directly to imagebin works for me.

[quote="Madman"]Imagebin support is built right-in to the pastebin applet. Click and drag an image to it, and it'll paste on imagebin. I use it all the time[/quote]

For some reason it has never worked here. The pastebin bit is fine, but I have not succeeded once in getting an image to upload. I thought maybe it was WIP, but if it works for some, perhaps I should post a bug report to find out why it doesn't work for me. Just as a matter of interest, does it post to imagebin or to imageshack? I'm wondering if there is a locale problem. Posting directly to imagebin works for me.

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:10 pm

Imagebin by default, but it also supports imageshack. Both work well for me on Kubuntu, and they worked on Gentoo when I tried it on that - maybe it's a problem with the Fedora build?

Imagebin by default, but it also supports imageshack. Both work well for me on Kubuntu, and they worked on Gentoo when I tried it on that - maybe it's a problem with the Fedora build?

[annew]

Re: Do you use activities or plasmoids extensively?

Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:24 pm

Imagebin by default, but it also supports imageshack. Both work well for me on Kubuntu, and they worked on Gentoo when I tried it on that - maybe it's a problem with the Fedora build?

Or maybe I haven't tried it recently enough. I'll try it again, next time I need it.

[quote="Madman"]Imagebin by default, but it also supports imageshack. Both work well for me on Kubuntu, and they worked on Gentoo when I tried it on that - maybe it's a problem with the Fedora build?[/quote]

Or maybe I haven't tried it recently enough. I'll try it again, next time I need it. :-)