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warning against using KJots - you can lose your notes

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If I'm not mistaken KJots is no longer maintained. Anyway I'd like to warn you, especially beginners, against using it. You can lose your notes which I experienced a few times. Let me elaborate.

I lost my notes a few times even though I had a backup. The problem actually is how many users know how to back up their notes? It's a kind of tricky thing especially for newbies.

The backup is hard to make because of the complicated file structure KJots uses. If the user do not know that there are hidden folders that represent this hierarchical structure, just copying the root notes folder from (depends on you distro, I think) ~/.local/share, will not copy the hidden folders thereby losing your data.

It could have been of course easier if there was some kind of import, but there is not. You can export your notes, but you can't even import it!

And now the best part. Of course it is a bug, but cost me another lost of data. I had (had because I moved the content to Evernote) the following case. ‘Pages’ in the ‘book’ existed, but they were not ‘physically’ on the disk. I know the notes structure, I had searched it many times, also using Nepomuk search right from the notes root folder - the content I had looked for was not found. I thought the notes had to be somewhere in the cache - where, I don't know. The next day the virtual notes were gone! I had been lucky moving them to Evernote.

PIM developers should warn their users against using KJots who could use it only on their own risk. It's a pity that there is no any good note-taking app for KDE. I was using Kbasket, now KJots, but I'm not going to lose all my valuable data. Though it's not the best solution, but I'm moving it to Evernote.

I'd like to also hear about others' experiences with KJots.
cheers!
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RRH wrote:If I'm not mistaken KJots is no longer maintained. Anyway I'd like to warn you, especially beginners, against using it. You can lose your notes which I experienced a few times. Let me elaborate.

I lost my notes a few times even though I had a backup. The problem actually is how many users know how to back up their notes? It's a kind of tricky thing especially for newbies. ... It could have been of course easier if there was some kind of import, but there is not. You can export your notes, but you can't even import it!

And now the best part. Of course it is a bug, but cost me another loss of data. I had (because I moved the content to Evernote) the following case. ‘Pages’ in the ‘book’ existed, but they were not ‘physically’ on the disk. I know the notes structure, I had searched it many times, also using Nepomuk search right from the notes root folder - the content I had looked for was not found. I thought the notes had to be somewhere in the cache - where, I don't know. The next day the virtual notes were gone! I had been lucky moving them to Evernote.

PIM developers should warn their users against using KJots, who could use it only on their own risk. It's a pity that there is no any good note-taking app for KDE. I was using Kbasket, now KJots, but I'm not going to lose all my valuable data. Though it's not the best solution, but I'm moving it to Evernote.

I'd like to also hear about others' experiences with KJots.
cheers!


You didn't say, but are you using KDE4? (It's buggy and arrogant, and folk shouldn't use it for real work.) As for your particular use of a 'note taking' app, there's a heavy Java-based (Jarnal) app that may work for you. What's wrong with continuing to use Evernote?
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Of course, I'm using KDE 4.9. As for Evernote I gave it a try.
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absolutelysure wrote:You didn't say, but are you using KDE4? (It's buggy and arrogant, and folk shouldn't use it for real work.)


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einar wrote:
absolutelysure wrote:You didn't say, but are you using KDE4? (It's buggy and arrogant, and folk shouldn't use it for real work.)


Please remember to uphold the KDE Code of Conduct and the forum rules when posting messages. Further violations of the CoC will not be tolerated.


What? My experiences from trying out KDE v 4.8 and 4.9 are irrelevant and can't be mentioned?
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There is a subtle, yet crucial, difference between "It's buggy and arrogant, and folk shouldn't use it for real work" and "I find it buggy and unsuitable for real work".
It's difference between stating fact and opinion.

Of course you can say that you can't get work done on KDE. But this is your experience, and other people experience may vary. For example, I find KDE superior and I fancy some features that ease my work (like desktop grid, calculator built in KRunner, clock plasmoid integration with KOrganizer).


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Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:52 pm
I can confirm what you say, RRH.
I have lost notes too, and there are others that are shown in Kjots but don't seem to exist on my disk. This is not an opinion, a belief nor a matter of «faith», but a fact. Some notes that were one day, the day after were not.
You say you are interested in others' experiences; well I posted mine here although nobody seemed to know much about the subject.

Have you tried Braindump? I have read in some sites that it could be used as a note taking program, but I think it lacks simplicity; although I have to admit that have only thrown a superficial look.

 
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