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Firefox and activities in 4.11

hareksu
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Firefox and activities in 4.11

Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:32 am
Hi all,

I switched from kubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 recently, and some of the behaviour of the activities seems to have changed. In 13.04, I could have several firefox windows open in different activities, and after restart these would appear in the right activity. Even worked when pausing some of the activities. After the upgrade, no more, they all appear in one activity. So what's changed? I know there's this workaround linking different mozilla profiles with activities, so it might be that the desirable functioning in 13.04 was just a lucky coincidence, and now everything's back to normal. Or is there some setting I need to set again?
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:09 pm
firefox used to happily change its classname with every "major" update, if that happened with your update, the window rules won't apply anymore and must be updated, check "kcmshell4 kwinrules"
If this is not the case, please attach the failing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:41 pm
Yes, the firefox window settings have disappeared indeed. But how do you set for the window to stay at the activity it was originally created? I only see fixed associating the window class to a chosen activity.
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:55 pm
The windows are not supposed to jump around across random activities, but stay on the one they were created on - until the window is destroyed (eg. if you use that FF extension that "minimizes" it to the systray, the window afair is)

Only undecorated windows (ie. there's no KWin titlebar) are set to "all" rather than "current" activities.
Don't use FF, but if it has an "internal" client side decoration (titlebar) for you, that's bug #274931

-> Please provide the ouput of "xprop" on a relevant FF window for more information (the cursor will turn into a "+" and when you click the window, much information is printed to the xprop calling konsole window - or into a file, eg. "xprop > ~/firefox.props")
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:24 pm
Maybe it's because firefox crashes every time I log out of kde instead of closing down cleanly, at least firefox session manager tells me that. Still, in the previous kde restoring the crashed session from the session manager extension restored the firefox windows in the correct activities, but not anymore.

Anyway, here's the xprop output for 2 windows, number one appearing in the correct activity (because it's the one opened by default), and number two which appears in the same activity but is supposed to be in another one:
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_NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 2383248
_NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 1456, 1168, 261, 32
_NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE
_KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 2, 2, 23, 4
_NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 2, 2, 23, 4
_NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0
_KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES(STRING) = "3934f3cb-4dc8-469c-a0d0-240cd8721db8"
WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
      window state: Normal
      icon window: 0x0
_NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) =
WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
      Client accepts input or input focus: True
      Initial state is Normal State.
      bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x3c000d1
      bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x3c000d2
      window id # of group leader: 0x3c00001
WM_WINDOW_ROLE(STRING) = "browser"
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 79891
XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP
_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x10, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
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_NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 62914768
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x3c000cf
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x3c00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2333
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "TheLittleBox"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
      program specified minimum size: 390 by 88
      program specified maximum size: 32767 by 32767
      window gravity: NorthWest
WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Navigator", "Firefox"
WM_ICON_NAME(COMPOUND_TEXT) = "Firefox and activities in 4.11 • KDE Community Forums - Mozilla Firefox"
_NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Firefox and activities in 4.11 • KDE Community Forums - Mozilla Firefox"
WM_NAME(COMPOUND_TEXT) = "Firefox and activities in 4.11 • KDE Community Forums - Mozilla Firefox"
_NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Firefox and activities in 4.11 • KDE Community Forums - Mozilla Firefox"


And the second one:
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_NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 1717, 1168, 261, 32
_NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE
_KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 2, 2, 23, 4
_NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 2, 2, 23, 4
_NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0
_KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES(STRING) = "3934f3cb-4dc8-469c-a0d0-240cd8721db8"
WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
      window state: Normal
      icon window: 0x0
_NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) =
WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
      Client accepts input or input focus: True
      Initial state is Normal State.
      bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x3c005cc
      bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x3c005cd
      window id # of group leader: 0x3c00001
WM_WINDOW_ROLE(STRING) = "browser"
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 95958
XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP
_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x10, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
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_NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 62916043
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
_NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 916599
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x3c005ca
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x3c00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2333
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "TheLittleBox"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
      program specified minimum size: 390 by 88
      program specified maximum size: 32767 by 32767
      window gravity: NorthWest
WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Navigator", "Firefox"
WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "SABnzbd | Idle - Mozilla Firefox"
_NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "SABnzbd | Idle - Mozilla Firefox"
WM_NAME(STRING) = "SABnzbd | Idle - Mozilla Firefox"
_NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "SABnzbd | Idle - Mozilla Firefox"
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:02 am
Do you have a matching firefox entry in ~/.kde/share/config/session/kwin_<random_hash_here>?

Are other attributes (on all desktop, keep above, ... stuff like that) preserved for
a) the relevant FF window
b) other windows (just open a kwrite instance or so)
for the next session?
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:23 pm
luebking wrote:Do you have a matching firefox entry in ~/.kde/share/config/session/kwin_<random_hash_here>?

Are other attributes (on all desktop, keep above, ... stuff like that) preserved for
a) the relevant FF window
b) other windows (just open a kwrite instance or so)
for the next session?


Ok, I opened a dvd::rip window in one activity, kate in another and firefox in another.
Kate stays where it's supposed to be after restarting, firefox and dvd::rip don't. I also set dvd::rip to keep above others, this setting disappeared.
So for now I guess kde apps behave correctly, while non-kde apps don't?

Here's the kwin_***** file:
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[Session]
active=4
activities1=
activities2=a569a391-f97e-4902-a640-52fd90bcb3d5
activities3=b017044f-e911-4590-80b2-996c45d91291
activities4=908b2743-c5dd-4216-8a8f-0855345a2de2
activities5=3934f3cb-4dc8-469c-a0d0-240cd8721db8
activities6=3934f3cb-4dc8-469c-a0d0-240cd8721db8
activities7=3934f3cb-4dc8-469c-a0d0-240cd8721db8
count=7
desktop=1
desktop1=-1
desktop2=1
desktop3=1
desktop4=1
desktop5=1
desktop6=1
desktop7=1
fsrestore1=0,0,0,0
fsrestore2=0,0,0,0
fsrestore3=0,0,0,0
fsrestore4=0,0,0,0
fsrestore5=0,0,0,0
fsrestore6=0,0,0,0
fsrestore7=0,0,0,0
fullscreen1=0
fullscreen2=0
fullscreen3=0
fullscreen4=0
fullscreen5=0
fullscreen6=0
fullscreen7=0
geometry1=1280,1165,1920,35
geometry2=1280,0,1920,1145
geometry3=1280,0,1920,1145
geometry4=1280,0,754,780
geometry5=0,0,1280,1004
geometry6=1698,39,1567,1138
geometry7=1280,0,1920,1145
iconified1=false
iconified2=false
iconified3=false
iconified4=false
iconified5=false
iconified6=false
iconified7=true
keepBelow1=false
keepBelow2=false
keepBelow3=false
keepBelow4=false
keepBelow5=false
keepBelow6=false
keepBelow7=false
maximize1=0
maximize2=3
maximize3=3
maximize4=0
maximize5=3
maximize6=0
maximize7=3
opacity1=1
opacity2=1
opacity3=1
opacity4=1
opacity5=1
opacity6=1
opacity7=1
resourceClass1=plasma-desktop
resourceClass2=dolphin
resourceClass3=kate
resourceClass4=dvdrip
resourceClass5=kontact
resourceClass6=firefox
resourceClass7=firefox
resourceName1=plasma-desktop
resourceName2=dolphin
resourceName3=kate
resourceName4=dvdrip
resourceName5=kontact
resourceName6=navigator
resourceName7=navigator
restore1=1280,1165,1920,35
restore2=1280,0,1924,1172
restore3=1823,45,798,286
restore4=1280,0,758,807
restore5=0,0,1284,1031
restore6=1698,39,1571,1165
restore7=1280,0,1465,0
sessionId1=1012211e148130000138930198400000063580001
sessionId2=1012211e148130000138895464700000020930286
sessionId3=1012211e148130000138929866700000020970121
sessionId4=
sessionId5=1012211e148130000138835112400000020930190
sessionId6=
sessionId7=
shaded1=false
shaded2=false
shaded3=false
shaded4=false
shaded5=false
shaded6=false
shaded7=false
shortcut1=
shortcut2=
shortcut3=
shortcut4=
shortcut5=
shortcut6=
shortcut7=
skipPager1=false
skipPager2=false
skipPager3=false
skipPager4=false
skipPager5=false
skipPager6=false
skipPager7=false
skipSwitcher1=false
skipSwitcher2=false
skipSwitcher3=false
skipSwitcher4=false
skipSwitcher5=false
skipSwitcher6=false
skipSwitcher7=false
skipTaskbar1=false
skipTaskbar2=false
skipTaskbar3=false
skipTaskbar4=false
skipTaskbar5=false
skipTaskbar6=false
skipTaskbar7=false
stackingOrder1=0
stackingOrder2=3
stackingOrder3=4
stackingOrder4=8
stackingOrder5=5
stackingOrder6=7
stackingOrder7=6
staysOnTop1=false
staysOnTop2=false
staysOnTop3=false
staysOnTop4=true
staysOnTop5=false
staysOnTop6=true
staysOnTop7=false
sticky1=true
sticky2=false
sticky3=false
sticky4=false
sticky5=false
sticky6=false
sticky7=false
tabGroup1=0
tabGroup2=0
tabGroup3=0
tabGroup4=0
tabGroup5=0
tabGroup6=0
tabGroup7=0
userNoBorder1=true
userNoBorder2=false
userNoBorder3=false
userNoBorder4=false
userNoBorder5=false
userNoBorder6=false
userNoBorder7=false
windowRole1=panel_25
windowRole2=dolphin#1
windowRole3=__katemainwindow#1
windowRole4=
windowRole5=mainwindow#1
windowRole6=browser
windowRole7=browser
windowType1=Dock
windowType2=Normal
windowType3=Normal
windowType4=Normal
windowType5=Normal
windowType6=Normal
windowType7=Normal
wmClientMachine1=localhost
wmClientMachine2=localhost
wmClientMachine3=localhost
wmClientMachine4=localhost
wmClientMachine5=localhost
wmClientMachine6=localhost
wmClientMachine7=localhost
wmCommand1=/usr/bin/plasma-desktop
wmCommand2=/usr/bin/dolphin
wmCommand3=/usr/bin/kate
wmCommand4=dvdrip
wmCommand5=/usr/bin/kontact
wmCommand6=firefox
wmCommand7=firefox
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:26 pm
Tried chrome as well, same results as for the other non-kde apps
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:01 am
Ie. the session is not restored by kwin (estimated from the keepabove state) - the KDE applications will likely maintain the activity from their session data.
http://kde.6490.n7.nabble.com/Session-m ... 38259.html
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326893
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:30 am
Ok, so it is a bug then? Guess I'll have to wait for the fix then.
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:01 pm
possibly. no guarantees that this is indeed *your* problem, though (but you'll see then ;-)
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:13 am
Got the same problem with a fresh install of kubuntu 13.10 on a new laptop.
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:35 pm
ubutu version numbers do not matter - the bug is *likely* fixed in kwin 4.11.6
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Re: Firefox and activities in 4.11

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:07 pm
Right. 13.10 has 4.11.5 at this point.

 
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