Lancelot brainstorming

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:37 pm

How about tooltips for the items that fade out because they are too long to display?

How about tooltips for the items that fade out because they are too long to display?

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:34 pm

An option to have every item in the menu squished together so that no scrolling is ever required, and a further option within that one to limit each list to a specifically defined maximum number of items to be displayed at a time, so that scrolling is required if more than the specified number of items is present.

An option to have every item in the menu squished together so that no scrolling is ever required, and a further option within that one to limit each list to a specifically defined maximum number of items to be displayed at a time, so that scrolling is required if more than the specified number of items is present.

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 pm

How about moving the arrows so that there's more room for the text?

How about moving the arrows so that there's more room for the text?

[img]http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8631/lancelot2fixedwt9.png[/img]

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:58 pm

How hard would it be to include an option to configure menu sorting? For example: sort alphabetically.

How hard would it be to include an option to configure menu sorting? For example: sort alphabetically.

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:24 pm

Maybe this has been fixed, but last time I tried I could not drag a program icon from Lancelot onto the quicklaunch bar of my panel. Apologies if this has been fixed or it's a plasma issue, but it's really frustrating.

Thanks for the great work!

Maybe this has been fixed, but last time I tried I could not drag a program icon from Lancelot onto the quicklaunch bar of my panel. Apologies if this has been fixed or it's a plasma issue, but it's really frustrating.

Thanks for the great work!

[ivan]

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:03 pm

@google01103
I have to say "no" for this. Keeping the window open is not the solution. I could make the search not clear itself though... I'll think about what can be done.

@motopicco85
Yes, clearing will be possible

@jrick
Yes, I really do think this should be done. The problem is that when you develop widgets from scratch, you often forget the small things like these.

@buu700
No. Lancelot now tries to squeeze the items to fit without scrolling, and if there are too many items, then the scrollbars are activated. Removing the limit on the minimum item height is not an option since you could get items that are narrower than 10 pixels which is useless. And making it all configurable is also not an option, at least not from the GUI. Ill have to consider making it a power-tweak as in edit-the-config-file-manually, but you shouldn't count on it.

@jrick
Move them where exactly?

@cybertaz
Sorting is already planned. I really didn't think it was such a big deal, but since there are a lot of you who want it, who am I to object

@anachreon_
It should work for quite some time now (at least since Lancelot 1.0). Make sure you have the desktop /unlocked/ when trying to add items.

@google01103
I have to say "no" for this. Keeping the window open is not the solution. I could make the search not clear itself though... I'll think about what can be done.

@motopicco85
Yes, clearing will be possible :)

@jrick
Yes, I really do think this should be done. The problem is that when you develop widgets from scratch, you often forget the small things like these.

@buu700
No. Lancelot now tries to squeeze the items to fit without scrolling, and if there are too many items, then the scrollbars are activated. Removing the limit on the minimum item height is not an option since you could get items that are narrower than 10 pixels which is useless. And making it all configurable is also not an option, at least not from the GUI. Ill have to consider making it a power-tweak as in edit-the-config-file-manually, but you shouldn't count on it.

@jrick
Move them where exactly?

@cybertaz
Sorting is already planned. I really didn't think it was such a big deal, but since there are a lot of you who want it, who am I to object :)

@anachreon_
It should work for quite some time now (at least since Lancelot 1.0). Make sure you have the desktop /unlocked/ when trying to add items.

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:43 pm

@jrick
Move them where exactly?

I mean, move them so that they look like they do in that (edited) screenshot. I moved them over in The GIMP so they are now directly over the circled arrow. Before, they were pressed up against the text. If they are moved over like shown, than there will be more space for the text.

EDIT: Actually, I can see why you would not want this to change. If the arrows were at the far end of the item, then you could accidentally select the item when the mouse was coming from the right side. With its current implementation, you have to move the mouse to the left (over the arrow) and then move it to the right again in order to get the circled arrow.

[quote="ivan"]
@jrick
Move them where exactly?
[/quote]

I mean, move them so that they look like they do in that (edited) screenshot. I moved them over in The GIMP so they are now directly over the circled arrow. Before, they were pressed up against the text. If they are moved over like shown, than there will be more space for the text.

EDIT: Actually, I can see why you would not want this to change. If the arrows were at the far end of the item, then you could accidentally select the item when the mouse was coming from the right side. With its current implementation, you have to move the mouse to the left (over the arrow) and then move it to the right again in order to get the circled arrow.

Last edited by jrick on Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:26 am, edited 1 time in total.

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:50 am

1: The timeout for no-click launching programs is great but the timeout for moving into the next submenu is too long. ( User settable )

2: The scrolling of menus too long to show at once is also too slow but, I suppose this is fixed with the scroll bars.

3: Drag and drop rearranging of the favorites section items.

And I belive you are working on Lancelot following the plasma theme.

That is all I can think of at the moment thank you for Lancelot it's a great menu system.

1: The timeout for no-click launching programs is great but the timeout for moving into the next submenu is too long. ( User settable )

2: The scrolling of menus too long to show at once is also too slow but, I suppose this is fixed with the scroll bars.

3: Drag and drop rearranging of the favorites section items.

And I belive you are working on Lancelot following the plasma theme.

That is all I can think of at the moment thank you for Lancelot it's a great menu system.

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:53 am

@google01103
I have to say "no" for this. Keeping the window open is not the solution. I could make the search not clear itself though... I'll think about what can be done.

Your decision but why not? Why shouldn't a user be able to launch multiple apps from a single search or from a single walk through to a app directory without reloading Lancelot and rewalking to that app directory? Maybe it's a habit from using Tastymenu but it is (though not a kde4) an interesting applet/menu.

thanks,

[quote="ivan"]
@google01103
I have to say "no" for this. Keeping the window open is not the solution. I could make the search not clear itself though... I'll think about what can be done.
[/quote]

Your decision but why not? Why shouldn't a user be able to launch multiple apps from a single search or from a single walk through to a app directory without reloading Lancelot and rewalking to that app directory? Maybe it's a habit from using Tastymenu but it is (though not a kde4) an interesting applet/menu.

thanks,

RE: Lancelot brainstorming

Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:43 am

Hi,

I think lancelot has big potential as a remix/asus-launcher replacement in subnotebook's. It arranges all most used things in a very intuitive way. So I think that the google01103 sugestion is useful in this case. And I whish give more ideias think in this use case.

1. The option to remove "Lock Session", "Switch User" and "Logout" Buttons, they can be replaced by a widget in the kicker replacement (I don't know how it calls now, sorry)

2. Some user feedback when a message/email arrives in contact icon.

3. The kmail part of contacts could list the email's title of the unreaded messages.

4. I think that arrows to scroll itens are more easy to use in touchscreens it will be good to keep it.

5. another vote to move the directory arrows sugested by jrick.

Hi,

I think lancelot has big potential as a remix/asus-launcher replacement in subnotebook's. It arranges all most used things in a very intuitive way. So I think that the google01103 sugestion is useful in this case. And I whish give more ideias think in this use case.

1. The option to remove "Lock Session", "Switch User" and "Logout" Buttons, they can be replaced by a widget in the kicker replacement (I don't know how it calls now, sorry)

2. Some user feedback when a message/email arrives in contact icon.

3. The kmail part of contacts could list the email's title of the unreaded messages.

4. I think that arrows to scroll itens are more easy to use in touchscreens it will be good to keep it.

5. another vote to move the directory arrows sugested by jrick.