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After a fresh install I try to install all needed applications on the first boot.

However, many times I forget some. It would be great if when I try to search for the application that is not yet installed in application launcher, it will display me an option to install this application (along with the "search web for ..." option that is already displayed).

I made a simple mock-up explaining the idea:


This idea is similar to the one already implemented in the terminal, ie, if amarok is not installed and you run `amarok` in the terminal, a message will be displayed saying that you can run a command to install amarok:

The program 'amarok' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install amarok
bash: amarok: command not found

AFAIK that completely depends on your distro, not on kde itself. This message comes from (k)ubuntu guys, and probably won't appear on other distros.

Anyway this idea that you comment may be implemented by providing some kind of interface, to call an external configuration application when the app is not found. By default you only should get an error message, but if "somewhere" your distro includes such a plugin (we can call it installer plugin) you should get a chance to seach for this app, using a concrete method depending on your distro (on (k)ubuntu maybe that may launch a search over apt list for this program, and show the results in another custom/reduced window, including only the install/search-related stuff).

Regards

I think packagekit could handle this. I already know that Ubuntu and openSUSE (and perhaps others) already have this for the commandline. If you type a command and the package that provides it is not installed but is available, it will tell you what package to install and what line to install it. This probably uses the "provides" property of packages, which I would guess packagekit also supports.

That could be easily implemented, on debian based distros for shure..


PS...
This reminds me about my frustration about graphical package manager that are not able to implement simple thing like:
apt-get upgrade --fix-missing
dpkg --configure -a
sudo apt-get -f install ..and so on, so many times you get such simple massages from cli that i simply can't understand why aren't they implemented...


sorry for offtopic

MirzaD wrote:
This reminds me about my frustration about graphical package manager that are not able to implement simple thing like:
apt-get upgrade --fix-missing

The openSUSE Yast application installer has a "verify installed packages", or something along those lines, to check for missing dependencies.

the shortest path to this would probably be to:

* write a runner that queries kpackagekit if the app isn\'t found by querying KService

* port kickoff to use runners for its searches.

This is silly, if application louncher doesn't show your program you start your package manager (gui or cli) and install it, don't make another microsoft windows where everything is dummies-proof, focus on bigger things

This idea rocks. Why has this never been done before?

Don't quite know how this is going to work. As a Gentoo user I wouldn't expect it to automatically open Konsole, set all my useflags, keyword, etc.

I would assume it would only work if you have KPackage Kit installed, or if other distros decided to link up the kicker to pacman or whatever else they might use.

aseigo wrote:the shortest path to this would probably be to:

* write a runner that queries kpackagekit if the app isn\'t found by querying KService

* port kickoff to use runners for its searches.

So the second point is done, someone just needs to write a runner. There's a similar idea here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83056&p=134159

I like this idea, and especially like the integrating it with an external program finder utility. It would be nice to integrate with ubuntu's software app, as they have a lot of software from various repositories.

KDE already supports a standard package-management tool called packagekit. They aren't going to implement this just for specific distributions like ubuntu, if it is implemented at all it will be using a more general tool like packagekit.

Could be implemented on Shaman (another KDE package manager), in the future.

I have a very simple implementation using PackageKit, maybe it will be useful:

http://github.com/alno/plasma-runner-appinstall