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d.h
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gillespie wrote:IMDb doesn't seem *too* restrictive, just some kind of attribution-stly licence

Actually IMDb is quite restrictive as in order to be allowed to use their data files available from their FTP sites one has to agree to their copyright/conditions of use statement, which amongst others declares:
IMDb wrote:Robots and Screen Scraping: You may not use data mining, robots, screen scraping, or similar data gathering and extraction tools on this site, except with our express written consent as noted below.

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IMDb wrote:Licensing IMDb Content; Consent to Use Robots and Crawlers: If you are interested in receiving our express written permission to use IMDb content for your non-personal (including commercial) use, please visit our Content Licensing section or contact our Licensing Department. We do allow the limited use of robots and crawlers, such as those from certain search engines, with our express written consent. If you are interested in receiving our express written permission to use robots or crawlers on our site, please contact our Licensing Department.

This means that probably most applications out there that use their data do so against their will, because I doubt any of them pays $15,000 licensing fees annually in order to be allowed to scrape their site or use their API.

It surely is quite tempting to use their data, but it is about time that people realize that IMDb is NOT FREE. And if they are contributors and do not like to be non-paid employees of Amazon.com (who owns IMDb) they might start contributing to services that are free.

The biggest problem of OMDB seems to be that it is in the shadow of IMDb and either is not known at all or doesn't get used because "IMDb is very good". It is not good, though it might be complete, because they do not allow the community who freely created the database to freely use it.

In my opinion any free movie database software should completely ignore IMDb and rather create an interface to OMDB which allows easy up- and downloading of data. That would quickly solve the problem of incompleteness, at least if the program is good and popular.

Last edited by d.h on Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:56 am, edited 2 times in total.
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d.h wrote:
Actually IMDb is quite restrictive as in order to be allowed to use their data files available from their FTP sites one has to agree to their [url="http://www.imdb.com/help/show_article?conditions]copyright/conditions of use statement[/url], which amongst others declares:


Sorry yes I misread. Ok so IMDb doesn't seem like a good idea. However, I also found thetvdb.com which looks very good (and free) and they have a field for "dvd disc id", which is currently unused, but could be just what I'm looking for... I posted on their forum asking about this
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thetvdb.com looks promising, but it only does include TV series. Their DVD id seems to be only interesting if data is linked to it already. Otherwise one could (and probably should if possible) use the one Musicbrainz uses.

By the way, mplayer also gives a disc id if the 'identify' switch is used, though I do not know how it is calculated and when I once searched for a possible database that uses it, I couldn't find one.

P.S.: Is it at all possible to copyright the type of data IMDb collects? Because I believe I once read that one cannot copyright facts and in my opinion that would be the case for years, actors, directors etc., though not for synopsis and descriptions. In other words, if I am right, most of their data could be freely imported into an own database...
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xxtjaxx wrote:
purple-bobby wrote:
If you run a DNLA server, it allows you to browse your media collection by the meta-data (and folder structure). As said audio meta-data seems richer than video meta-data.

I didn't use one of these before can you point out one that is using free software?
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TVersity is supposed to be a fine free UPnP server (on Windows), my Freecom ARM based NAS box uses TwonkyVision media server. MythTV and MediaTomb have the liberty and free aspects.

I have been unable to get a UPnP Control Point (client) working on OpenSuSE, but I have a Linux based set-top-box that does work. XBMC is supposed to use Platinum UPnP as a server, but I've been unable to get XBMC client to do anything useful.
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xxtjaxx wrote:
gillespie wrote:
Also I should add I can program... and I'd quite like to be involved in this project.

Everythings setup and ready you me and another guy from mediaspy will work on that i got it in my git repository you should find it either on my blog mention in the first message in this ideathread.
i called it komedy I doing the basics now please consider talking alot on irc in #kde-devel on irc.freenode.net .
My handle is the same as here ping me when you got time.


Shouldn't this idea be marked as "In Progress" since developers started working on this. By the look of it, project Komedy started as direct response to this idea.

check out:
http://andreasdevblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/komedy/
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I'll just add what I would like to see in an application for KDE video library:

AVCHD support, and an interface like Picasa.

I have an Canon HF200 video cammera that saves movies in avchd format. These are played fine with the latest mplaer and X.264 codec, but I have no thumbnail support, or any other means of organization of these videos.

Of course the Canon provided software is Windows Only, and it also sucks big time.

So something like Picasa for video, that scan and updates a list of videos, with thumbnails, and that shows some frames of the video as you hoover your mouse on it, would be xtra cool :)
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gillespie wrote:I just emailed TMDb concerning hashes, I'll let you know what they say

Have they answered by now? And are you actually working with xxtjaxx on this project?
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Pros for Amarok:
-Amarok provides all the needed feature to manage the collection and an extendable Plasma-interface
-For purists there could be options like --no-video and --no-music, for all the other people there would be a video-tab
-It is useful to manage music-videos together with music
-A lot of development time could be saved
-Starting would not take much more time, it would just be a bigger collection. With the startup-performance argumentation you could also create seperate collections for each album...
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is tellico not exactly what this project aims to provide?

http://tellico-project.org/about-tellico

Tellico is a KDE application for organizing your collections. It provides default templates for books, bibliographies, videos, music, video games, coins, stamps, trading cards, comic books, and wines.

Tellico allows you to enter your collection in a catalogue database, saving many different properties like title, author, etc. Two different views of your collection are shown. On the left, your entries are grouped together by any field you like, allowing you to see how many are in each group. On the right, selected fields are shown in column format, allowing you to sort by any field. On the bottom is a customizable HTML view of the current entry. The entry editor is a dialog box where you enter the data. Check out the screenshots.

Tellico keeps things simple, so no database server is needed. The data is saved in XML format, which makes for easy parsing, portability, and styling. It will run on any platform which KDE supports, most commonly Linux. Tellico is licensed under the GNU General Public License, giving you the freedom to modify and distribute the source code.

If you download Tellico and like it, do let me know. I'm happy to try to accommodate any suggestions. Also, if you package Tellico for a distribution which isn't available elsewhere, I'd be happy to host it. If you have translation updates, please pass them on as well. I do have to say that Tellico is a hobby for me, and it is released without any guarantees or warranties. It may crash a lot for you, it may not do anything that you find useful.
Capabilities

* Supports default collections of books, bibliographic entries, videos, music, video games, comic books, coins, stamps, trading cards, wines, board games, and file catalogs.
* Supports user-defined custom collections, as well
* Supports any number of user-defined fields, of several different types: text, paragraph, list, checkbox, number, URL, date, images, and combinations
* Handles entries with multiple authors, genres, keywords, etc.
* Automatically formats titles and names
* Supports collection searching and view filtering
* Sorts and groups collection by various properties
* Allows customizable entry templates through XSLT
* Imports MODS, Bibtex, RIS, CSV, PDF metadata, and many other formats
* Exports to Bibtex, ONIX, CSV, HTML, PilotDB, and other formats
* Includes translations for more than nine languages, other than English
* Imports information directly from Amazon.com (US, Japan, Germany, United Kingdom, France, and Canada), IMDb, z39.50 servers, PubMed, SRU servers, CrossRef.org, various other websites, and from external scripts.
* Imports CDDB data for cataloging audio CDs
* Scans and imports audio file collections, such as mp3 or ogg

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It should have an Amarok GUI. :(
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There is great application for this what use KDE4 base technologies. It is called Bangarang you can get it with git from http://gitorious.org/bangarang and read about it from http://bangarangkde.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/intro/
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There is a solution that is actually easier and better, I think:

We talk to the VLC developers, and offer to create an optional KDE GUI for it.

This should be rather trivial, as they already have a Qt4 GUI, so we could simply extend that. Adding to that, they are using Git (makes such branches easy), and we are on good terms with the developers (head developer will visit our Multimedia Sprint).


No need to reinvent the wheel :)


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You know that there is a VLC-Phonon-backend?
I do not think that VLC's interface is some kind as cool as Amarok.
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Bangarang has great potential alas in its current state it is very prone to crash and hang. I'd keep my eye on the git version :)
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