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Which couple of other names are always regarded as an album

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rkalinke
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In the Amarok Handbook it is written:
Albums called “Live”, “Greatest Hits” and a couple of other names are always regarded as an album.
under Chapter 5. Organization -> Collection -> Collection Scanning -> About Albums

Which other names are always regarded as an album? Or where can I find this information?

Furthermore if I choose "Various Artists" as an Album artist it disappears from the Edit Track Details dialogue. Is is ment to be in this way? It is also not listed in the suggestions list of the Album artist. In that list I expected to find also "Greatest Hits" and the "couple of other names".
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The list can be found here: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extra ... cessor.cpp

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nonCompilationAlbumNames
            << "" // don't throw together albums without name. At least not here
            << "Best Of"
            << "Anthology"
            << "Hit collection"
            << "Greatest Hits"
            << "All Time Greatest Hits"
            << "Live";

rkalinke wrote:Furthermore if I choose "Various Artists" as an Album artist it disappears from the Edit Track Details dialogue. Is is meant to be in this way? It is also not listed in the suggestions list of the Album artist.

Why would you choose that? If you set no album artist id3 tag Amarok will consider the album to be a compilation by default, with exception of the above mentioned ones. And what do you mean it disappears from the Edit Track Details dialogue? You mean from the album list in the Collection Browser?

FWIW: I presume you talk about Amarok 2.7, sadly you didn't specify.


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Mamarok wrote:The list can be found here: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extra ... cessor.cpp

Thank you very much!

rkalinke wrote:Furthermore if I choose "Various Artists" as an Album artist it disappears from the Edit Track Details dialogue. Is is meant to be in this way? It is also not listed in the suggestions list of the Album artist.

Why would you choose that? If you set no album artist id3 tag Amarok will consider the album to be a compilation by default, with exception of the above mentioned ones.
In the perspective of Amarok it should be sufficient to leave it blank. I am a bit biased by other programs which i must use in parallel. Theses programs rely on an Album Artist to be set. (Thats why I wanted to know those which are understood by Amarok)

Mamarok wrote:And what do you mean it disappears from the Edit Track Details dialogue? You mean from the album list in the Collection Browser?
At some of my compilations the Album artist was set to "VA". These compilations are not regarded as compilations by Amarok. In order to make Amarok aware that it is an compilation I set the Album artist to "Various Artists" (not to blank inorder to maintain compatibility to other programms). After pressing "save & close" and reopening, the Album artist field is left blank in the same dialogue. However the "Album Artist" ID3v2.4.0 Tag2 is set to "Various Artists" in all the files. I just sought this information does not need to be hidden from me.
No, i did not mean the album list in the Collection Browser.

Mamarok wrote:FWIW: I presume you talk about Amarok 2.7, sadly you didn't specify.
Yes. Sorry, its Amarok 2.7 (in Amarok 2.6 which i used before it was the same)

Once again: Thank you very much!
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As soon as you set something in the Album Artist field it will not be seen as a compilation anymore in Amarok, that's the whole point of having that tag, it should not be used otherwise.


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Mamarok wrote:As soon as you set something in the Album Artist field it will not be seen as a compilation anymore in Amarok, that's the whole point of having that tag, it should not be used otherwise.
Okay, I understand. I certainly mixed some things up here. But anyway if, and only if, the album artist is set to "Various Artists" it is also treated also as a compilation.
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// - "Various Artists" is the same as no artist
    if( best.compare( i18n( "Various Artists" ), Qt::CaseInsensitive ) == 0 ||
        best.compare( QLatin1String( "Various Artists" ), Qt::CaseInsensitive ) == 0 )
        best.clear();
in ArtistHelper.cpp used by e.g. ScanResultProcessor::sortTrack

And for the compatibility with other programs I will keep in mind that the Album Artist tag is the declared ID3v2 frame "TPE2":
http://id3.org/d3v2.3.0 wrote:The 'Band/Orchestra/Accompaniment' frame is used for additional
information about the performers in the recording.
Which is treated as "Album Artists" also by other programs [http://help.mp3tag.de/main_tags.html]


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