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Jean-Francois St-Germain
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iPod HOWTO

Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:40 pm
Is there any amarok-iPod HOWTO? The media player section in the help file wasn\'t of much help. How does it need to be mounted?

Thanks, great work guys, the 1.2-beta3 is just AMAZING!

PS: My distro: SuSE 9.2.
muesli
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:43 am
mount it to /mnt/ipod (currently forced mount point, sorry) and restart amarok. done.

have fun,
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:27 am
It\'ll work more or less the same with an iRiver H320, though, right?
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:12 pm
no. currently ipod only. will work with any usb device in the near future, even though it achieves its full power with an ipod or database powered device only, really.

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Max Howell
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:36 pm
Would make a good wiki entry, no?
Mike Diehl
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:21 am
Yeah, and it would be great if I got off my **** and finished the section in the handbook. Problem is, at the time of writing it, the Media Device tab was still under heavy development, maybe I can get to this sometime soon. :)
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:27 pm
got an Ipod mini up and running with 1.2 beta3. But please have a look at: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97645
since it would be so much easyer to get songs on it!
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:04 am
I have an iRiver player, too (H340). Would be nice to see support for it.
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:55 am
I haven\'t talked to them, but I don\'t think I\'m going out on a limb here if I suggest buying a dev your mp3 player might result its being supported. :P


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Re:iPod HOWTO

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:35 am
How do you mean database powered? The iRiver hard drive series (H320, H340, H10) do use a database, but it\'s optional. It\'s not created in the player (you have to use either iRiver\'s software - Windows only - or the OS project iFish - Java), but it\'s there.

Does that help anything?
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:37 am
Apparently iPod has a database in the player itself that keep track of things like how many times you\'ve played a track.


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Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:39 am
yup, the ipod has its own song database built-in. this is what the media device browser uses.

of course, we could add support for any usb media device rather easily and we will do so in the future. but what would be the difference between the media device browser and a file browser pointed to the mount-point, then?

atm, the transfer-queue only. the syncing feature in the future. and that\'s exactly the point where i might add general usb support.

but all the coolness will only show up, if the device offers us its own database, where we could sync playtimes, scores, etc etc. besides that: eean is right, any device sponsored will be prefered, of course. at least i dont plan to buy an iriver, i\'m happy with my pod :-)

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Re:iPod HOWTO

Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:21 am
Ah, I think I understand now. The database in the iRiver is only for searching songs by artist name, album and genre instead of just by file, so there\'d be no point, right?

Still, my \"MyMusic\" directory in the root of my iRiver is (by my choice) a mirror of my \"~/Documents/MyMusic\" directory. This is where I was hoping the new feature in amaroK would be useful for me. When I rip a new CD into my local directory, I then transfer it to the mirror directory on my iRiver and run iFish to update the database. I don\'t really want to add the device to my collection (for instance) because all it would do is create doubles of all my songs. But I do use amaroK to change information in my collection - tags, for instance. I\'d like to be able to update only songs I change (or add) easily and that\'s what I was hoping might be possible with the new feature. I could then still run iFish to update the database.

I guess I\'m outright asking that this be considered, if someone feels like it. It\'d be nice if songs could be considered the same despite different filenames (for one, because the iRiver uses FAT32 and therefore can\'t handle characters like question marks and for another, because of limitations in the database, files can only be a certain character length).

Is this a tall order? Or maybe is it kind of what you have in mind for the future anyway?

Thanks for the answers, though. If you\'d like more information, I\'d be happy to help where I could.
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Re:iPod HOWTO

Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:33 am
Does the iPod have to be formatted by Windows? My wife\'s iPod has been formatted with HFS because she has always used mac. Now her Mac is broken :( , and I\'ve set her up a desktop in KDE that mimics OS X. Perfectly I might add. The only thing she needs now is to be able to sync up the ipod. So, will HFS work or do we have to reformat to VFat?


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