Hej,

I sorted my collection and added some artits, album names etc. Now my collection in Amarok is perfectly sorted.
Today I imported my collection again in a different account and all songs are displayed like before without having changed the tags in Amarok ( a lot of "unknown" etc).
Also Kid3 does not show the tags like I tagged the songs in Amarok. Somehow the information seems to be stored within Amarok, but not written into the file.
Anybody konws about this problen, Anybody can help me?
Thanks

Which Amarok version are you talking about?

Sorry, this information should be added of course...:
Amarok 2.5.0, KDE 4.7.4 on Kubuntu 11.10
But I think I realised the same the last time I put up my computer new; only that I didn't bother much and tagged it all again. But since I put some more effort in it this time I would be really glad not to do it again... and of course to better understand how amarok is working.

thanks for your answer so far
cheers

Could you please make a bug report for this on http://bugs.kde.org against the component "Collection"? This should definitely not happen.

Before filing the Bug I will play around with Amarok a little bit more. Somehow, when I change the name again now, it does write it into the file... But when I iported the collection into my new account last week it definetly did not show all information I wrote into the files before and which were shown in the old account.

But since nobody else has this problem, it might be on my side and before filing a new bug I will make sure again.

Thanks

I noticed something that may be related to this. When the title id3 tag is missing, amarok tries to guess it from the filename, and dosen't do that well of a job(well how could it when it doesn't know the format), doing that it even ignores the id3 tags that the file has and displays the ones it guessed.
This happens with a not-that-standard filename, but i haven't tested it that much... Filename example: "%2n- %t" where n is the track number and t is the title. Should I file a bug report and to which component?

Amarok was never meant to be a mass-tagging tool but only to correct tags if necessary. So you should make sure you have well tagged files before adding those to the collection, because a missing title is definitely a very bad idea. With a file name like you suggest it will probably just guess the track number, which is not a bug but perfectly normal behavior.

Sure, but then if anything, it shouldn't be the default behavior, or at least there should be an option to disable it being the default behavior. You say "correct tags when necessary", but how could it:
a) know when it is necessary
b) correct them properly without user-input or already predefined user input(but u can't define all the possible variations).
In my opinion amarok should allow for all kind of possible variations, because if anything, it cannot know if the value is there by intention or a mistake or whatever.
Other thing, its misleading. Lets says that amarok actually guesses the tags correctly or at least doesn't guess them wrong in a obviously visible way - i then have no way of knowing that my file is missing a tag/tags...
And actually i doesn't even guess the tracknumber correctly but: it ignores the tags the file actually has(which is a problem in my opinion) and instead it displays the tags it 'guessed'.
So that in the above mentioned case, for example, the first digit of a two digit tracknumber ends up being the Artist name, the second digit the track number and the song title ends up being the filename without the first digit of tracknumber(if i remember correctly). What i'm saying is that that it shouldn't ignore the already existing tags within the file atleast.

AFAIK the title of a track is the most important tag existing to be entered in the database, if that doesn't exist it has to be guessed. Everything else is configurable, but having tracks with no proper title tag is considered as an error to be corrected, else the track can not be stored in the database.

If it does indeed overwrite existing tags then this is a bug, but I have never seen that happen here, as Amarok only writes what the users tells him to.

But then amarok should signify somewhere, like under edit tracks, that the title tag is missing and that it guessed the title or just use "Unknown" or something similar as the title. It doesn't overwrite the tags in the file but just displays(probably from the database) the guessed tags instead of the ones which the file already has. I'll do some testing(when i have the time) and try to write up reproduce steps(with an example file)... Should i report here or file a bug report directly? My apologies for taking over the thread, i thought the OP's issues might be related to this.