I find the play count statistic feature very interesting and wondered why it increases even if u skip the track after the first few seconds... imho it should only be increased if u have listened to x% (maybe 50%) of the track...
shouldnt be hard to implement and right now i cant see any reason for the current way of counting...

I agree!

Zeltak

Why not use the Score instead, which does exactly what you want.

Mark Kretschmann wrote:Why not use the Score instead, which does exactly what you want.

erm, no.
well, the score is depending on whether i skip the track or not etc, yes. but the score is a dynamic rating system, so in the end it tells me amaroks best guess if i like the track. thats not what the play count is for.
the play count on the other hand tells me something different. it tells me how often i listened to a certain track. thats its function, nothing else, or am i wrong?
now if it increments every time i only listen to some seconds, it doesnt really do what it is supposed to do.
2 examples:
- in one of my dynamic playlists i have a rule "if never played" (same for the filter in one of the last blog entries, it was something like "havent played in the last 30 days) now if i so far skipped the track, i dont know it, i have never listened to it. so i want to get it into my playlist... if i would want to filter out tracks that i propably dont like, i would use rules with some score/rating abrrier.
- the statistics become unreliable. i would like to know how much tracks i actually listened to so far. or what the overall amount of time is i listened to music in amarok. or i would like to see if i listened to band a more than band b, even if my (current) rating/score is better for band b... could go on and on....

hope you actually consider this, because i just see advantages and no disadvantages... (or why should i want to count how many times i missclicked or shuffeled a track if i didnt actually listened to it?)

combine the two - tracks you haven't played in last 30 days, with a score of greater than n.

To be honest, playcount is only an issue in the early days of building up your collection stats. After a few weeks or months, depending on the size of your collection and listening habits, the playcount becomes less useful except in cases where you've never listened to a track because you've just added it. If there are tracks you don't like and have skipped, they won't show up again unless you make them do so.
Or perhaps I don't understand exactly why you don't like the way it works now.

dangle_wtf wrote:combine the two - tracks you haven't played in last 30 days, with a score of greater than n.

it was just an example btw.
but that would only help for new tracks. if i have played some songs over and over in the past, the score is set high. now i wasnt in the mood for it and skipped it a few times, the score is still going to be high, so it wont come up in my list although in fact i did not _listen_ to the track in the last 30 days, it just shuffeled in or whatever..

dangle_wtf wrote:To be honest, playcount is only an issue in the early days of building up your collection stats. After a few weeks or months, depending on the size of your collection and listening habits, the playcount becomes less useful except in cases where you've never listened to a track because you've just added it. If there are tracks you don't like and have skipped, they won't show up again unless you make them do so.
Or perhaps I don't understand exactly why you don't like the way it works now.

  i thought i explained it well in the last post...
well, to break it down on my main point: imho the play count is there to count how often i have listened to a track. but right now it counts how often the track got selected... why would you wanna count that?

i think you're mistaking amarok for a sentient being. that only happens on irc.