Hi, I am a Ubuntu (Gnome) user who adores several of Amarok's unique functions, but I'm afraid of the consequences of moving away from my so-far-well-behaved 10.04 LTS version of Ubuntu.

So far, from what I can see, the new Amarok is only available for 10.10 and newer. Is this a decision that will stay that way, or will patience reward me with the possibility to upgrade my Amarok from 2.3.2 to 2.4?

There's another related question I haven't been able to find an answer to: when installing a new version of Amarok, should I first uninstall the previous version?

q1 - that is a question best asked to the *ubuntu packagers, this site claims you can use the backports ppa for Lucid http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-a ... and-higher but I have no actual knowledge regarding if it will work.

q2 - the packaging system should take care of removing the old and installing the new, though obviously you could remove and then install but there shouldn't be any reason to

Hi,
you might want to make a backup of the amarok configuration directory at ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
That will save your ratings in case of any problems.

Otherwise I cannot see any problems with grapping a new amarok version.

Following that site's instructions will install 2.3.2 for 10.04, not 2.4

iirc Amarok 2.4 requires KDE 4.6, which is not available for Lucid

claydoh wrote:Following that site's instructions will install 2.3.2 for 10.04, not 2.4

iirc Amarok 2.4 requires KDE 4.6, which is not available for Lucid

That is the not the case, from the official release announcement "Bumped KDE dependency to version 4.4., and Qt dependency to 4.6." see http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.4.0 - maybe you're mixing your kde's with qt's

google01103 wrote:

claydoh wrote:Following that site's instructions will install 2.3.2 for 10.04, not 2.4

iirc Amarok 2.4 requires KDE 4.6, which is not available for Lucid

That is the not the case, from the official release announcement "Bumped KDE dependency to version 4.4., and Qt dependency to 4.6." see http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.4.0 - maybe you're mixing your kde's with qt's

Sorry, I stand corrected on the kde version, but using the instructions provided will still install 2.3.2 in Lucid as there is no 2.4 package there for 10.04

One could to manually add the Maverick repo to Lucid, and it should work, actually; there doesn't look to be any significant dependency issues in the package for 10.10

Thanks for your replies. I tried running the installation instructions I could find for Maverick and Natty:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get  install amarok

But it seems to be the same as for previous versions, and it says "amarok is already the newest version", referring to my 2.3.2 version.

I hope to try a little further before I give in and install Maverick.

Cerapter wrote:Thanks for your replies. I tried running the installation instructions I could find for Maverick and Natty:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get  install amarok

But it seems to be the same as for previous versions, and it says "amarok is already the newest version", referring to my 2.3.2 version.

I hope to try a little further before I give in and install Maverick.

Yes, that will only get you 2.3.2, as those commands add the repo for the version you are running.You can add the Maverick specific info to your Lucid system.

Look here for instructions.

The line you want to enter will be this:

You must, however, make sure you DO NOT upgrade anything, just refresh the package list, install Amarok, then disable or delete the repo line

You may have an easier time just downloading amarok, amarok-common, and amarok-utils and manually installing them from the commandline with dpkg.

If you go to
the PPA page, you can find the packages there, if you click the "view package details" line

I tried changing "lucid" to "maverick" as distro for the amarok PPA in my repositories. Then I tried installing amarok though the command line, and I got this:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  amarok: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6) but it is not installable
          Depends: libkcmutils4 (>= 4:4.4.95) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: liblastfm0 (>= 0.4.0~really0.3.3) but 0.4.0~git20090710-1 is to be installed
          Depends: libplasma3 (>= 4:4.5.85) but 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 is to be installed
          Recommends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (>= 4:4.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages


I also investigated my Synaptic Package Manager (Gnome's KPackageKit, as I understand), which gave me the choice to upgrade amarok, but not without removing everything I know as KDE-based on my system, and upgrading phonon (which I do not use). But I suppose this is just due to the repository being "wrong". So as you recommended, I did nothing.

So I downloaded the packages instead. The Package Installer won't let me install, partly because of the same problems in the quoted code, and partly because it can find 2.3.2. I will try to wrestle with dpkg when I find some more time soon.

I installed all the amarok packages with dpkg, and when amarok wouldn't start, I tried installing the dependencies it wanted as well. I could only install two, and they made little difference, and after a short while, my update manager decided it was best to remove amarok altogether. Out of ideas, I gave my consent, and now I reinstalled amarok and I'm back where I started.

I don't suppose this was meant to be tried. While I ponder over upgrading to Maverick, here's the dpkg log, in case someone else should attempt the same:

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cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 220743 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace amarok 2:2.3.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 (using amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement amarok ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amarok:
 amarok depends on amarok-common (= 2:2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1); however:
  Version of amarok-common on system is 2:2.3.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2.
 amarok depends on amarok-utils (= 2:2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1); however:
  Version of amarok-utils on system is 2:2.3.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2.
 amarok depends on libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6); however:
  Package libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 is not installed.
 amarok depends on libkcmutils4 (>= 4:4.4.95); however:
  Package libkcmutils4 is not installed.
 amarok depends on liblastfm0 (>= 0.4.0~really0.3.3); however:
  Version of liblastfm0 on system is 0.4.0~git20090710-1.
 amarok depends on libphonon4 (>= 4:4.7.0really4.4.4); however:
  Version of libphonon4 on system is 4:4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 amarok depends on libplasma3 (>= 4:4.5.85); however:
  Version of libplasma3 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
dpkg: error processing amarok (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for python-gmenu ...
Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/desktop.en_US.utf8.cache...
Processing triggers for python-support ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 amarok
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i amarok-common_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_all.deb
(Reading database ... 220749 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace amarok-common 2:2.3.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 (using amarok-common_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement amarok-common ...
Setting up amarok-common (2:2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i amarok-utils_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 220908 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace amarok-utils 2:2.3.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 (using amarok-utils_2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement amarok-utils ...
Setting up amarok-utils (2:2.4.0-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ amarok
amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN6Plasma11Containment13configChangedEv
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.22.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0.
dpkg: considering removing libgtk2.0-0 in favour of libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 ...
dpkg: no, cannot proceed with removal of libgtk2.0-0 (--auto-deconfigure will help):
 gnome-power-manager depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0)
  libgtk2.0-0 is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.22.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb containing libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:
 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 conflicts with libgtk2.0-0 (<< 2.21.3)
  libgtk2.0-0 (version 2.20.1-0ubuntu2) is present and installed.
dpkg: error processing libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.22.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0_2.22.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i libkcmutils4_4.6.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package libkcmutils4.
(Reading database ... 220907 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libkcmutils4 (from libkcmutils4_4.6.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2_amd64.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package libkutils4 ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libkcmutils4:
 libkcmutils4 depends on libkdecore5 (= 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2); however:
  Version of libkdecore5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libkcmutils4 depends on libkdeui5 (= 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2); however:
  Version of libkdeui5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
dpkg: error processing libkcmutils4 (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libkcmutils4
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i liblastfm0_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 220914 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace liblastfm0 0.4.0~git20090710-1 (using liblastfm0_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement liblastfm0 ...
Setting up liblastfm0 (0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1) ...

Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
cerapter@Ancalagon:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i libplasma3_4.5.1-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb
dpkg: warning: downgrading libplasma3 from 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 to 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7.
(Reading database ... 220914 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libplasma3 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 (using libplasma3_4.5.1-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libplasma3 ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libplasma3:
 libplasma3 depends on libkdecore5 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libkdecore5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libkdeui5 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libkdeui5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libkdewebkit5 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libkdewebkit5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libkdnssd4 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libkdnssd4 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libkio5 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libkio5 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libknewstuff3-4 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libknewstuff3-4 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libsolid4 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libsolid4 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
 libplasma3 depends on libthreadweaver4 (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7); however:
  Version of libthreadweaver4 on system is 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1.
dpkg: error processing libplasma3 (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libplasma3

Hmmm.

I will ask around if there is any possibility of building a Lucid package to the Kubuntu PPA, or adding it to one of mine. Barring the need for numerous backports of any libs down to 10.04, it may not be too hard to do.

for 2.4 on Lucid see viewtopic.php?f=115&t=93959&p=190659#p190659