Hello!

I posted something already on Amarok-devel mailing list, but i wished to have a broader feedback about what i think is some kind of design issue :

I am used to using the poor xmms for quite a long time, generating a playlist with all my 40.000+ tracks in it. doing so, i am able to sometimes put \"shuffle\" on, and go along some other places of my playlist, then shuffle-off and continue my listening. (i also do a very intensive use of the \"Jump to file\" quicksearch function to manually go someplace else in the list)

I wish to switch to Amarok, which is really the killer-app i was waiting for, but i have to be able to reproduce the same listening habits (you know how habits are hard to loose, don\'t you? ...

Alas! when loading a 40.000 tracks playlist, Amarok goes amok! (haha) it takes up to 350MB ram, a lot of CPU, and is quite unusable (very slow transitions sometimes, pause/unpause that takes hour, etc...)

I was told that this is due to QT widget about lists, and that i will have to wait a long time for QT4... but i was thinking : as i am using a Mysql DB, isn\'t possible to integrate such features as indexes, or fulltext-indexes, into Amarok playlist?

Think of the \"load infos on demand\" in the options of the o-so-deprecated xmms : you always have the very basic minimal infos (filename) of your tracks in the playslist, but when the list is focused on some part, all the real infos are loaded

Would that be very complicated to implement into Amarok? I see at least two good reasons of doing so :

- now the cheapest hard disks are over 100 MB, so having 40.000 tracks won\'t be a lot for so long (despite the pitiful legal attemps from RIAA and its worldwid minions)

- i am _dying_ to use Amarok on an everyday basis!!!


Thanx for reading my (long) message. I\'d be glad to have some comments on it.



j

Didn\'t we already answer you questions?

Have fun with XMMS,
Ian
(sorry, in a bad mood since I\'m about to go to work)

sure you did!

but as i wasn\'t on the -devel mailing-list, so i couldn\'t have any follow-up, or see what did the other developpers think about it!

since my first message i had this idea about \"fulltext indexes\" and a list \"àla\" xmms that would load infos only when focused, and wanted your opinion on the feasibility of such thnigs.

plus i _don\'t_ have fun with xmms, and i don\'t want to use it anymore, now i had a first taste of amarOk!

i understand your bad mood, work isn\'t fun for everybody, but please don\'t be too harsh with somebody who bought 512MB ram extension, on a very tight budget, just to try to get comfortable with your app! (it didn\'t change much, except that it doesn\'t swap anymore...)


sorry to bother you, and long life to amaroK anyway, with or without me as a faithful user....

as mentioned: that\'s simply not the way amarok works. if noone wants to learn and change their habits, then we\'d all be still using windows.

so: wait for qt4 (it might get a little better then) or change you.

...muesli

well my way of listening to music is just like the \"all collection\" smart playlist... if you find it stupid, then why did you include it in Amarok?

maybe i should go _back_ to listen to predefined playlists after all and have only a very limited number of tracks from one or another defined style when i could have all my music at anytime! i should also learn to do different playlists and switch from one to another just like i did a few years ago!

i will also learn to wait patiently for two minutes, at 99% CPU that my music player launches, and my new habit will be that when any program will take 350MB RAM and i switch to some lighter object (like an empty playlist), it will never give the RAM back, and i will find it cool!


thanx anyway for replying and sorry to bother you so much with my dumb-user experience.

Its there because for folks like me, All Collection is usable. You don\'t have to change your habits so much, just use a combination of the random smart-playlist and the collection view.