All the kids in a certain college campus can share their mp3s through iTunes. I can't because I use Linux. It would be very cool if I could play mp3s without knowing or caring whether they are on my computer or someone else's on the LAN.

It is impractical to hack iTunes' protocol for sharing files. But whats wrong with writing our own? I'll help. True there is already more than enough network file sharing protocols for Linux like Samba. And Linux has some great open source file sharing software such as (k)mldonkey . But it would make playing other peoples' files a lot easier if there were a context tab for this, I don't need to download the entire song first to begin playing it, if I don't like it i don't have to delete it, and so.

Let's make amarok the best mp3 player in the world by attracting user's, making juK irrelevant and consolidating user and developer bases with other mp3 players for FreeBSD and Linux. Let's stop waiting to implement features just because we don't think that enough people use KDE to really make it worth while.

Thanks guys! I feel very lucky that i found out about amaroK on http://www.kde.org%20news.

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All the kids in a certain college campus can share their mp3s through iTunes. I can't because I use Linux. It would be very cool if I could play mp3s without knowing or caring whether they are on my computer or someone else's on the LAN.

It is impractical to hack iTunes' protocol for sharing files. But whats wrong with writing our own? I'll help. True there is already more than enough network file sharing protocols for Linux like Samba. And Linux has some great open source file sharing software such as (k)mldonkey . But it would make playing other peoples' files a lot easier if there were a context tab for this, I don't need to download the entire song first to begin playing it, if I don't like it i don't have to delete it, and so.

Let's make amarok the best mp3 player in the world by attracting user's, making juK irrelevant and consolidating user and developer bases with other mp3 players for FreeBSD and Linux. Let's stop waiting to implement features just because we don't think that enough people use KDE to really make it worth while.

Thanks guys! I feel very lucky that i found out about amaroK on http://www.kde.org%20news.

http://www.deleet.de/projekte/daap/daapd/
http://mt-daapd.sourceforge.net/
I think both these are Itunes servers, so there exist open source projects for serving your music to Itunes clients. And when there exist a OpenSource server, there should not be anny problem making a client.

iTunes uses the daapd protocol, which has no need for being \"hacked\" as mentioned by the first poster.

The addition of daapd support in amaroK would be awesome. However, to work seamlessly with other iTunes applications (and/or third-party daapd music servers), amaroK will need to make use of mDNS. I\'m not sure how everyone feels about adding another piece of external software for amaroK to depend on, but this would be a really cool addition.

what would mdns do, and why would we need it?

...muesli

mDNS, part of Apple\'s Rendezvous suite, is what enables iTunes applications to automatically detect other iTunes applications on a LAN. iTunes uses mDNS to act as a broadcaster and a listener, telling the world of its existence while at the same time listening to other advertisements from other iTunes apps. This really isn\'t a huge requirement, but for seemless integration with iTunes (which I believe is related to the main topic here), it would be useful to have a mDNS implementation running.

As mortiferus stated, a couple of projects already use this. I\'ve used the mt-daapd server before, which utilizes the mDNS to create a streaming audio server.

Another useful link for info would be http://www.section6.net/help/daapd.php, although it\'s geared for setting up an iTunes music server on FreeBSD.

there\'s some talk about rendezvous support in KDE, at least there was somewhere at sometime (I only vaguely remember). It would be neat.

maybe i get this wrong, but sounds like audioscrobbler to me :blink:

hds wrote:

maybe i get this wrong, but sounds like audioscrobbler to me :blink:

You get this wrong
Audioscrobbler collects statistic about what you play and recomends other based on that.
This is a way to share your collection to your local nettwork. Almost like normal file sharing, but only with audio. And minimal setup. The application broadcast the music it has in the collection, and can view others broadcasting. And then you get the other users files shown in the aplication. So people with iTunes can play each others songs without problems (on lan that is). Cool on lanparty.

I\'d like strongly add my support to adding support for daap to amarok. Given that I have a mt-daap server running in linux but have yet to find a good linux client for it is a little on the annoying side. I end up listening using a windows with itunes as the client instead.

If it is implemented one thing to, hopefully, be sure of is that you can use it over ssh. Itunes you can\'t even with port forwarding because apparently itunes doesn\'t like to look at 127.0.0.1:3689. It\'d be great if you could ssh into your home server. Forward 3689. Listen to your music from your home server at work.

If itunes opens a port you can forward it.

If itunes opens a port you can forward it.

The port gets forwarded fine but apparently apple programed itunes so that it won\'t look for shared music on 127.0.0.1:3689.

More importantly, which I didn\'t make at all clear above, it\'d be nice to be able to listen to it in linux in a nice environment.

There is Rendezvous/Zeroconf support in KDE 3.4/Beta 2 at least. See http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Zeroconf+in+KDE for details.

actually I think there is player \"tunesbrowser\" wich function with iTunes

http://crazney.net/programs/itunes/tunesbrowser.html

so perhaps that help somebody

Not the same as UPNP, but for the apple fans out there, there is now a daap client in kdeplayground-multimedia/daap/libdaapclient/

Could this be used with Amarok?