I know that this is like asking a little much early on as far as lyrics, but I think it would be absolutely wonderful if we could a) cache lyrics, b) store custom lyrics, c) use other sites to pull lyrics from.

now i could live with b and c, a isn't really neccesary. But it would be absolutely awesome, because I normally use darklyrics.com for lyrics, it's a little slow, but good and reliable, and has a tendnacy of having the lyrics for my music, when the server you guys use (i forget off hand) doesn't.

Hense my subject....

Thoughts? trolls? whatnot?

Like this?

Well, AFAIK, the current lyrics support in CVS doesn't allow to a) cache lyrics, b) store custom lyrics, c) use other sites to pull, so I think you misunderstood his post.

Ok sorry, I've not tried CVS and the lyric.

Post edited by: Mogger, at: 2004/11/07 21:53

Well, AFAIK, the current lyrics support in CVS doesn't allow to a) cache lyrics, b) store custom lyrics, c) use other sites to pull, so I think you misunderstood his post.

correct

there is no Ultimate Lyrics site, hense why I mentioned this.

Now as I was informed in irc, that the legal-issues related to lyrics are pretty much the same as open ftp servers letting people 'leech' your mp3's.

It's still copyright'd work, so storing custom lyrics would get around that legal issue I believe, because it would assume the _USER_ to do it, and would assume you have legal rights to do so.

Tiz a thought.

Post edited by: damm, at: 2004/11/07 09:43

Talking about lyrics support, what I think it would be completely legal (from the developers' point of view) is to read the lyrics included in the files' tags. I think it is already a feature request.

ertij wrote:

Talking about lyrics support, what I think it would be completely legal (from the developers' point of view) is to read the lyrics included in the files' tags. I think it is already a feature request.

I wasn't aware that ID3TAG supported Lyrics?

But that would be a legal approach to it.

Personally I ask partially because I can't find my lyrics thru their site, and I would gladly put it through on my own, and 'cache' it personally, just like sometimes amazon doesn't find the cover, so you add a custom cover.

Custom Lyrics would be nice, I think that's a good feature request.

damm wrote:
I wasn't aware that ID3TAG supported Lyrics?.[/quote]

id3tag v2 supports embedded lyrics, images and a whole lot of other stuff...

seb wrote:

damm wrote:
I wasn't aware that ID3TAG supported Lyrics?.

id3tag v2 supports embedded lyrics, images and a whole lot of other stuff...[/quote]

Then why don't we support atleast images, and whatnot already?

all i've ever seen in ID3v2 is standard Artist Group, Track, Genre, etc etc.

i've never seen insert picture, or any of that.

now OGG Tag's seem to be more robust, granted.

But still, i've not seen people implement those, is there a reason?

ID3 lyrics makes sense, I don't know why you'd want to embed an image for each track.

They're not features of ID3 that are supported very often, which is why its not there alread.

The b) request seems the most reasonable - as amaroK devs would not hold the responsibility for any legal issues. I think that if there is a foo.ogg and foo.txt, then amaroK should use the foo.txt as lyrics. If there is no foo.txt, amaroK should look for the lyrics in the internet. IMHO, this wouldn\'t be too hard to implement or am I wrong?

taglib does not support id3v2 completely and thoughs amarok don\'t have support for lyrics inside the file yet. (Also notice, that no other popular file-type besides mp3 with id3v2 does not have support for lyrics)
Having multible lyrics sites would indeed be handy, but it would make things a lot more complicated.
Besides amarok provides the Add Lyrics and Search Lyrics buttons! Use them, and pretty soon all your lyrics will be there!

Post edited by: xatax, at: 2005/04/03 14:02

I guess we\'re scared to implement something like this (having amaroK look for text files in the music directory) due to the problems we\'ve had with cover art. It would be easy to do, but hard to get it right.

Like currently there\'s someone requesting that an album all by the same artist have different covers for each track... who would\'ve thought of that.

eean wrote:

I guess we\'re scared to implement something like this (having amaroK look for text files in the music directory) due to the problems we\'ve had with cover art. It would be easy to do, but hard to get it right.

Like currently there\'s someone requesting that an album all by the same artist have different covers for each track... who would\'ve thought of that.

It doesn\'t seem all that far fetched really to have lyrics implemented, the problem isn\'t implementing them, it\'s a uniform design.

As if you\'re getting files by album, and you store them nicely like

/mp3/Alice Cooper/Album A/Alice_Cooper_Album_A.txt

that makes sense for lyrics, great wonderful.

But, is that the proper way? what if some idiot wants

/mp3/Alice Cooper/Album A/Album_A.txt

so how do we define what it looks for?

unless we make it a static, if file (lyrics.txt) exists; then addtolyricspool();

sanely it makes sense for /mp3/Alice Cooper/Album A/lyrics.txt

but i\'m not sure how other programs would appeal or not to that.

> but i\'m not sure how other programs would appeal or not to that.
From the time I used Winamp: There was a plugin that searched for the lyrics in a special folder - if the name of a lyric file matched the song title by, lets say 70%, it took this file as lyric for the playing song. I must admit that this kind of search had an unexpected good accuracy.

It could also read id3v2 and lyrics2.something tags, so it seems there is more than one tag-solution for lyrics :unsure:

Post edited by: Alanceil, at: 2005/04/04 22:22