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multiple copies of albums

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:13 am
I have several copies of some albums, for a variety of reasons (file format: I prefer ogg or flac but I have a hardware mp3 player; availability: the bulk of my music is on a network drive this laptop doesn\'t always have access to, so I have local copies of some of it; organization: if I want to use xmms sometimes, it\'s nice to have copies or symlinks in other places so I can enqueue directories).

Unfortunately, the effect of this is that I can\'t easily enqueue the albums from the collection browser - each song gets played N times. For some reason, the \"remove duplicates from playlist\" doesn\'t do anything. So I have to manually pick out N-1 copies of each song and remove them from the playlist. Wotta pain! And of course they\'re my favorite albums.

Currently, my options are:
* Remove the duplicates from my filesystem. I don\'t want to do this because of the reasons listed above.
* Tag the other copies with some wrong album name. I don\'t want to confuse musicbrainz/scrobbler/coverviewer/whatever, and I don\'t want to have to look at bogus album names.
* Arrange for only one copy to be indexed by the collection manager. I don\'t want to do this because it requires me to hunt through a forest of directories to find files that occur in two places (possibly with different filenames) and separate them.

I don\'t know what the Right Way to solve this is, but I have some ideas:
* Allow me to tick \"ignore this file\" in the collection manager (or filesystem browser, or whatever) making the file hidden. If ever I need to get it back I can turn on \"show hidden files\" or whatever.
* Allow me to create fake albums for second, third, etc. copies.
* If two files have the same artist, album, title, and track number, put them in another level of the tree (that is, instead of a track being a leaf, you can expand a track to list copies of the track; this could show filenames, which would be nice for other reasons). Then enqueuing a bunch of tracks would simply pick one copy of each (ideally the best-quality version, but whatever) and enqueue those.

I like amaroK, and will keep using it regardless, but this would be a significant usability improvement...

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Re:multiple copies of albums

Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:40 pm
Your problem is pretty unique, so its kind of hard to solve without bloat.


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Re:multiple copies of albums

Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:57 pm
I think blacklist coud be useful to you...
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Re:multiple copies of albums

Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:52 pm
Similar situation with having full discs and maxi-singles that have the same title.

i.e. Def Leppard - Hysteria (the album)
Def Leppard - Hysteria (the maxi-single)

Since everything I have is MB-tagged, they have the same name and thus end up being considered the same album.

This is where stuff like MBIDs, or even \"smart\" path-checking might come in handy. Though I\'m aware both of those options have limitations that would make them hard to implement. (Not everyone MB-tags their files for some sad reason, paths are different for every user, especially the Kazaa downloaders who put all their files in one directory, etc.)


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Re:multiple copies of albums

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:48 am
I rather doubt that my problem is unique, in fact. I know many people who keep a zillion tracks on some sever with loads of disk space and listen to them on a laptop. If they want the possibility of disconnected operation, which some of them surely do, they\'re going to run into exactly the problem I do.
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Re:multiple copies of albums

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:33 pm
Yes, the \"removeable media\" problem is certainly an issue worth dealing with, its just not a issue we\'ve figure out how to resolve yet.

...but I don\'t see the relevance to your issue.


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Re:multiple copies of albums

Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:30 am
Well, in my case, and probably in many others\', there is some overlap between what\'s on the local disk and what\'s on the removable medium. So, for example, I have a copy of Massive Attack\'s Mezzanine both on my local disk and on the network drive. When I\'m not connected to the network, I can play it just fine by dragging the album to my playlist. But when I\'m connected to the network drive, if I do that, I get every song twice. So I have to go through and remove every second song.

The very simplest solution would be this: when enqueueing an album, amarok simply chooses (at random, say) one copy from among each collection with the same artist/album/track number (one could even require the track titles to be the same).

It would be nice to also group them in the collection listing, but if that\'s too complicated, I can live with an album listing that has two or three copies of every song on it.

Just to be clear, this is what I see in the artist/album view:
Massive Attack
Mezzanine
Angel
Angel
Risingson
Risingson
Teardrop
Teardrop
...


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