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Thu May 17, 2012 3:36 pm
Hello everybody! I've just started to used krita a few hours ago and i've notice already few things that can be great to have. As a concept artist i have to work fast so this is a few idea of some things who can help. (maybe it's already done but i just don't know how to do it)

- An accessible slider for the brush size because it's a big lost of time to go every time on the brush menu to change that (even if you use the keyboard shortcut this is not a precise tool)
- Brush who use a bank of brush tip like they do on the Alchemy software. That way it could be a random brush and we can try to not all the same shape when you are drawing. for exemple if you what to draw a forest and you have a bank of seven different trees the look of the forest will be more random.
- it will be great, but hard to do i suppose, to have brush with multiple colors like a real image. (like if you want to draw leaves with the texture of the leaves on it.
- if you acheive the two previous make the both at the same time.

I also had problems with the zooming this is a big waste of time the way its made for the moment. But i think if we can just add the tip touch with the keyboard shortcut it will solved the problem. Or maybe it's just because i used photoshop for so long now.
To finish i have a bug to report. I am on windows 7 an the help of krita is not working. There is a icon on the program bar who appear and desappear one second latter.

I hope my english is understandable and hope it can help to improve the soft. For the record i've tested many free software like mypaint, alchemy, gimp... and i found your software the most intreseting. I think i am not ready to drop photoshop yet but who knows if you continue to improve. I think your brush property have really great potential.


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Re: Brush idea

Thu May 17, 2012 3:55 pm
- already possible the slider at the top can be switched to brush size
- also possible there are some brushes in the predefined brushes that already have several different tips
- you can use real images as brushes, also in the predefined brushes and can be created under custom brush
- works at the same time
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Thu May 17, 2012 4:39 pm
Great for the size thank you! ^-^

But for the brush tip i think my idea was not clear and i'm sorry i don't find the right word to explain it.
The idea was to have a folder of tip shape where the brush pick randomely a tip.
I hope this is a better explanation ;)

For the image we can use i'm still searching but if it's possible i will find.


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Thu May 17, 2012 10:48 pm
Thank you i found the real image brush. This is awsome!!!

Quick new question i try to make a round brush with hard edge and when i draw with it, if the size of the brush is big the edge is smooth but when i use a small size this is awfull because we really see well the pixels stairs. Is there a way to avoid that?


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Fri May 18, 2012 6:22 am
Hello,

CyrilDesign wrote:- An accessible slider for the brush size because it's a big lost of time to go every time on the brush menu to change that (even if you use the keyboard shortcut this is not a precise tool)
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For changing brush size also press shift + left mouse button and drag to change the size
Here is nice thread with tips for Krita:
viewtopic.php?f=137&t=85939


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Fri May 18, 2012 7:25 am
If you want to create an animated brush,make an image with a layer for every stage of the brush, then create an image brush out of it. Set the type to animated and the selection method to random. These brushes are compatible with GIMP gih brushes.
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Fri May 18, 2012 3:47 pm
Hello again ^^
I'm still learning to use krita, i'm really familliar to brush creation but i can't find a way to have a really random size or rotation ... Is this already exist or is will be an upgrade later?

LukasT.dev -> the shift and click drag is awsome thank you
And thank you boudewijn i've found the animated brush it's really awsome it works great! I really think i'm gonna use your soft now i've some real drawing test to do but all the team did a great job.


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Sat May 19, 2012 5:34 am
CyrilDesign wrote:Hello again ^^
I'm still learning to use krita, i'm really familliar to brush creation but i can't find a way to have a really random size or rotation ... Is this already exist or is will be an upgrade later?


In the brush editor (the button in the top toolbar) you can choose "Size" and then enable "Random" (from memory. It might be called "fuzzy"... or something in French on your computer!). This will change the size randomly, and you can also vary how much by playing with the settings.

You can do the same for rotation.
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Sat May 19, 2012 9:54 am
Kubuntiac wrote:
CyrilDesign wrote:Hello again ^^
I'm still learning to use krita, i'm really familliar to brush creation but i can't find a way to have a really random size or rotation ... Is this already exist or is will be an upgrade later?


In the brush editor (the button in the top toolbar) you can choose "Size" and then enable "Random" (from memory. It might be called "fuzzy"... or something in French on your computer!). This will change the size randomly, and you can also vary how much by playing with the settings.

You can do the same for rotation.


Thank you it works great i really enjoy it!!!


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Sat May 19, 2012 11:42 am
hi i'm starting to use the brush creator to make my own but there are many thing good and two things that i'm (personnaly) not a big fan

- I really enjoy the fact there is a testing area but i think you can use a small part of it in the top or in the bottom to make a default line to see the changes in live to the brush. I explain,the thing is, in order to see what you've just changed, you have to draw every time to see what it's affecting your brush and then you have to clean the area make a change and do it again. It's really time consuming.

- The next thing is the preview of the brush. I don't like it because of the readability. When you begin to have a certain amount of brush you really have to concentrate to see your brush. And for the moment the brush are in name order but i d'like to order the preset by myself by take the brush i used more often in first position without have to rename it every time. And last thing i'm not sure of this one because it will take some space on the preset preview but mabye add an icon of the type of brush this is on the corner of the side of the preview.

Those are the only things i can say about the brush creation. All the rest is just perfect in my opinion.
Once again this is just because of my use of software it dosen't mean i am right.

i like the haching brush principe and i want to know if it's possible to do the same with textures or parterns?

Thanks krita team! :)


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Mon May 21, 2012 3:21 am
CyrilDesign wrote:i like the haching brush principe and i want to know if it's possible to do the same with textures or parterns?


I don't think it's possible at the moment, but talk to Pentalis (the guy who made the hatching brush). He might be able to help you out. :)
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Re: Brush idea

Mon May 21, 2012 7:26 am
In git master there's a texturing option. We decided against having a live-updated squiggle preview(like Photoshop has) because that would never accurately convey the parameters the user choose, so that's unlikely to return.
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Tue May 22, 2012 4:09 pm
boudewijn --> I don't see how it can't work, it can't work for the blending or certain type of brush but for the pixels brush i'm sure it's possible maybe not for the preset docker but just in the preview on the testing area. It will be a great just to speed up the brush creation. but i understand it maybe change all your system so i will not push ;)

I've something to show you what is for me a really bad point and one of the main reason i will not switch of software yet.
It's an aliasing probleme on brushes.
On lot of my clean drawing i use a silhouette and then with an other linked layers i do the lighting and details. For that purpuse i use hard edge brush but there is a big problem on the hard brush. We really can see the pixels stairs. So you are forced to use a blury brush to have a smooth hard edge sensation. So evertime you have to switch tool to have the tool who is compatible with the size.
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I can't imagine worked professionally because i lost to much time to see if it's the right brush for the tip size i use knowing the pressure change the aspect of the edge. Just can't work with that. So i think the trick to do that is to have an anti aliasing in pixels size maybe who can be activated on brushes.

Does it's speak to you? I'm not sure if my explaination is good.


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Tue May 22, 2012 7:19 pm
Hm, we discussed this a bit on irc and were wondering whether what you want is to have a brush with a fixed size blurred edge (to provide the anti-aliasing), instead of one that sizes with the brush size. Sven concluded that that should be quite doable -- but is it what you mean?
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Tue May 22, 2012 9:30 pm
I think the blured edge maybe can do the trick if it's more easy for you. :)
This need to put to the test.

This is an image of what is was talking with textured brush. It's combine with dual brush in photoshop.
So i was wondering if there is a way to have this kind of brush on krita with the actual preset aviable.
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