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What I'm working on in my copious spare time is stacking N presets, where N > 1, with some sensor for offset and selectable blending mode. But I'm on work travel now, so no progress.
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About tool options, not sure i'm gunna like that decision, is it still available as a docker? because if it is I don't mind so much.

If not, hiding the tool options in the header? I'm gunna take a i guess and say its not like photoshop, which will change the entire header when you change tools. Instead its something you have to go and click?
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You can set it back to a docker in the preferences.

Yes, it's something to go and click, changing the entire header will ruin all of Krita's workflow(and there's elements that just don't fit horizontally)
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I actually think tool options as a docker is something krita does better than PS. So sticking up there as default, seems like more work than it was originally (docker), and not quite as efficient as it would have been if it was the ps way. So it seems like a step backward. I've been using krita for a while obviously. If I was a new user though, It just seems to be better to have the docker as the default, and the header option as the changeable one.

I assume this new one will be default since you said "change it back"

When I first used krita, the options where just there, because they changed in the docker as I switch tools, so I automatically assume that they are related.This new way seems like they will be hidden from the user. Anyway just something to think about, first impressions are everything :)
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nharmony wrote:I actually think tool options as a docker is something krita does better than PS. So sticking up there as default, seems like more work than it was originally (docker), and not quite as efficient as it would have been if it was the ps way. So it seems like a step backward. I've been using krita for a while obviously. If I was a new user though, It just seems to be better to have the docker as the default, and the header option as the changeable one.

I assume this new one will be default since you said "change it back"

When I first used krita, the options where just there, because they changed in the docker as I switch tools, so I automatically assume that they are related.This new way seems like they will be hidden from the user. Anyway just something to think about, first impressions are everything :)


Well, we're still trying to figure out if it's good as a default or not. Krita testing now goes like this: We just by default turn a new feature on, and then wait for the artists to complain. (We have too few people testing it for usability otherwise) By the time the first windows build comes along we'll know if it's a bad idea to have by default or not.
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Tool options have been a problem for paint applications forever. Early versions of photoshop had the tool options in a panel top-right, but after 6.0, merged the options in the top toolbar. Current photoshop does some other things with fold-out panels that I haven't understood yet.

In Krita, we had the tool options panel in the top-right docker position, but that never worked all that well because of the extreme variability in size of the options panels from tool to tool. people kept having to scroll the panel. So Animtim put the tool option panel in the tall section bottom-right, but there it was less discoverable because the brush presets were on top.

That's when I thought of making it a top toolbar popup, which most artists on irc liked the idea of.

There are still a few todo's: make it possible to both have a popup and a docker at the same time (which is hard and a lot of work) or make the setting reconfigure krita without needing a restart, which is easier.
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ok thanks for hearing me out, when a new build comes out i'll have a better opinion.

Though, the news update said there where 315 bugs, but they are now about 325 *gulp*
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Yes... people keep reporting new bugs. Some are duplicates, others need tiraging. I had planned a weekend full of bug fixing, but broke my arm :-(
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ouch! hope you are healing
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@boudewijn

I hope you get well soon!


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Can we get an option in preferences to disable the recover file dialog at startup?

also, is it possible to do a feature/release freeze while bugs get cleaned up (or until they get under 100)? or is that not something you can't afford?
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I would hesitate allowing people to disable the recovery dialog...

As for the releases, we're fixing bugs all the time and right now, and once a month we're releasing a new version with bug fixes. But because master is frozen (because of the Qt5 port going on), new features that happen to be ready end up in the monthly release as well. Next release is tomorrow, with a ton of bug fixes again.

Whether we'll ever get under 100 bugs again is doubtful, right now (because of broken arm etc.) I'm not even managing to triage all the new bugs, that is, determine whether they are valid or duplicates... Krita is getting really popular really fast now and that means the incoming bug report stream is growing fast.
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If you want to remove old items, deselect them on the recovery dialogue, and press 'ok', krita will then delete them for you.

It probably could be done more elegantly(with a discard button), but I haven't got the time currently to figure out the dialogue.

Edit: You can also theoretically disable it by turning off autosaves, or pre-saving your project before you work more than 5 minutes on it.
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Thanks for the response guys.
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Akademy, which is the KDE conference took place this weekend in Spain, and the talks have been uploaded.

There were a few Krita related talks:

From Akademy Award to Imagine FX Award This one is about the history of Krita.

Krita Users in the Spotlight This one is about the artist's interviews.


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