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First thoughts On Using Krita

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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Tue May 14, 2013 1:17 pm
I'm actually working, after discussion with the Gimp and mypaint guys, on a way of packaging brush libraries. The initial design is done, now I just need to code it!
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Tue May 14, 2013 5:20 pm
Ryan wrote:OK. I've found a workaround for dealing with not ending up with hundreds of brushes in the folders. You mark the brush thumb with say a small green or red mark or whatever colour coded system you decide on. Then when you inevitably end up with hundreds of brushes you don't want you can go into the brush folder delete all the ones you don't want (since they are clearly marked) then delete the blacklist file. That gets rid of all your unwanted brushes without too much hassle and you can put some in sub folders.
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I had this problem also, but is already "solved" The option lacks the discover factor but it's definitively there.
Go to Edit > Resources > Cleanup removed Files

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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Tue May 14, 2013 7:49 pm
OK, that's exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. However, my resources on that menu has nothing in it. No submenu. Maybe it should be there or is there in development version?

I'm planning on testing development versions soon.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Tue May 14, 2013 7:56 pm
It's in the 2.7 beta and development version.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Tue May 14, 2013 8:42 pm
boudewijn wrote:I'm actually working, after discussion with the Gimp and mypaint guys, on a way of packaging brush libraries. The initial design is done, now I just need to code it!


I've got hundreds of brushes for Gimp and Mypaint but it's all very disorganised. I haven't actually been doing this type of thing for long (not it 2D digital anyway) and I'm constantly changing brushes and improving them. There are good brush presets for Mypaint from the likes of Deevad and Ramon but there are also lots of much whackier and still very useful things you can do. In Mypaint you can create spray texture brushes that activate without touching the canvas for example. In Gimp, the animated brushes can in fact be very useful for creating natural looking brushes. It takes some work but it very effective. I'm going to shift a lot of brushes over to Krita. This is why I'm concerned about organising them.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 2:36 am
I've got 2.8 on here now. Archlinux system but with XFCE (I actually don't like KDE to be honest). Performance is fantastic. I do push things to max with giant res and lots of layers. Transform tool has gone from unusable to awesome. I can see some other great improvements :)

This system is actually my last outpost of Linux. I had to move audio production over to a Mac. Sadly, Linux has no way to compete with OSX (or even Windows) for audio production but that's another story.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 2:42 am
Ah, okay, I see the issue. Yes, brush organization is being worked on in 2 ways:
- Firstly, the developers are working on a common brush library scheme so that users can share all their brushes between Gimp, MyPaint and Krita. So, you won't need to "move them over."
- Secondly, in chat, I remember someone had started to rework parts of Krita for better resource organization, which should eventually make it easy to organize brushes by categories and such. I'm not sure how much that's progressed since, though.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 3:46 am
Has everyone tried these:

http://colorathis.wordpress.com/2013/05 ... rushes-v1/

This app is turning out awesome.

So you just create a gimp animation brush then that can be used for the Alchemy style Krita brush?

Also, these other vector shapes. I see an add shape docker. Can we use our own shapes so it's like the Photoshop custom shapes? In Inkscape you can create vectorised shapes like the Photoshop method via the trace bitmap. That's extremely cool. Obviously Inkscape is only vector though.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 6:42 am
"Can we use our own shapes so it's like the Photoshop custom shapes?"

In theory yes. We can define shapes in xml files and have them show up here. However, last time I tried that is a couple of years ago, so I have to figure out how that worked...
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 1:36 pm
OK. You're doing great work with Krita. I was at the end of my tether with Linux recently. I had to move audio production back to OSX. Then we had these desktop changes. Ubuntu Unity and Gnome 3. I don't think Gnome 3 is that bad but I don't like Ubuntu Unity. I had been using Debian as well. I decided to move to Arch so I could control my own system properly. I just use the simple XFCE. I tried KDE but I found it to be a bit bloated and definitely buggy. Then systemd came on Arch. My Arch is fully systemd now. Very fast. Incredible boot times. I've come through all this now and Arch is great. Always up to date. I don't want to be swapping around from one distibution to another. I hate that.

For anyone wondering about Photoshop custom shapes if they don't know what it is. This video shows you. It's a used quite a lot in more painterly pictures although I'm guessing Adobe didn't design it specifically with this in mind. It's like a kind of more controllable Alchemy in the way you can find idea by moving shapes around. You can do this in Inkscape so we are not without it on Linux.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRL4lzgHGzc

I'm into combining other methods with brushwork. The best pictures often have a digital look since they utilise what computers do as well as brush emulations. Sparth uses custom shapes. You can see it in his pictures.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Wed May 15, 2013 2:00 pm
By the way, Inkscape is a great app. One of my favourites. It's a little bit slow but the results you can get are really good. It's easy to use. I see there is a vector app called Karbon but I never tried it.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Thu May 16, 2013 2:04 pm
boudewijn wrote:I'm actually working, after discussion with the Gimp and mypaint guys, on a way of packaging brush libraries. The initial design is done, now I just need to code it!


boudewijn,

One really simple management within Krita itself would be to allow the user to select which folders resources are in. In Gimp for example, under preferences you can add, remove and tick any folders you want for all Gimps resources. First thing I do when I install Gimp is to deselect the folders in /usr/share/gimp/ for things like brushes, gradients etc so only the ones in the home folder are used. This feature becomes even more important when you are using many apps using the same types of resource. You might make the Gimp folders central then other apps would point to that since Gimp is actually pretty strong when it comes to designing bitmap brushes.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Thu May 16, 2013 2:11 pm
Good point.

Resource management is a hot topic of discussion on #krita on freenode these days. I think it's time to assemble a list of bugs and wishes in bugs.kde.org and start making an implementation plan.
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Re: First thoughts On Using Krita

Thu May 16, 2013 2:50 pm
As for my previous negativity towards managing the brushes. I'm getting used to the present system. In 2.8 i'ts easier and the smaller icons to click and delete in the brush editor are much better. It's harder to accidentally delete so that solves that annoyance.


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