Well I forgot you weren't around back then, so I understand you may have thoughts I was being more dramatic or extremely vague in my risk assessment.

There's couple of things to think about:

1- We need an easily accessible FAQ, either here on the forum, the wiki, or even the mailing list.
This is not necessarily for the user as much as it is for us as communicators, helpdesking.
Q: How often does a question need to be asked in what time period to be a FAQ?
Q: Where do we store these?
2 - Press releases. We'll need to have some kind of list of new features updated daily. There's a trick you can use to sent important git commits to the mailing list. DmitryK uses these, I suggest we look into making this a general rule so that keeping track of new features is easier, and we might spend less time on writing press-releases.
Q: Figure out how to do this mailing with git-commits.
3 - How do we handle having more accounts to update? Do we need more places to update at?(Like Concept art or cgsociety?) Who will do those? And how will we do those without overburdening someone?
There's more, just add what pops up for you.

About the donations page: yes, I really would like to see this improved a lot. We also should ask for donations on the home page and on the download page, and point to the patreon when I get that set-up.

Outside of kickstarters (which we'll have to do again in any case), I see these kinds of donations as possible, but we'll have to see how to best present them:

* One-time donation with a free amount as a thank-you, from the homepage, download or donations page.
* Recurring donation with a free amount for individuals (development fund)
* Recurring donations with a minimum amount for companies that will give access to the centos and ubuntu LTS repositories (also development fund)
* Donations towards particular features. We can set up, say, four of those with meters and cut them up in chunks, every time a chunk is reached, we'll implement that.

I also would like to have a better shop page. The DVD's are selling amazingly well for somethings that's pretty hard to find . But we've also got mugs and bags in stock, and I wouldn't mind expanding that t-shirts and other stuff, closing up the zazzle store and handling it locally.

Setting up a good donations page and shop page takes more javascript than I know, though!

boudewijn wrote:I also would like to have a better shop page. The DVD's are selling amazingly well for somethings that's pretty hard to find . But we've also got mugs and bags in stock, and I wouldn't mind expanding that t-shirts and other stuff, closing up the zazzle store and handling it locally.

It should be possible to embed the shop in the website through the use of a wordpress plugin (krita.org uses wordpress, right ?).
https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/zazzle

There's probably similar plugins for crowdfunding platforms.

@Kaoron: the website does use WordPress, so we have a lot of options.

I might switch gears for a bit and do more web improvements whenever I get done updating the transform options UI.

A couple of things I want to do with the website:
1. Make donations easier, more prominent, and more integrated with the site. This includes merchandise as well as money payments
2. update the learning area design and communication (this is one of the most frequently visited areas on the site. It needs more love)
3. Improve the marketing aspect for news posts with sharing options, social media integration, and email signups (all with a plug-in of course!)

The dev krita site disappeared, so it might be a little tricky for me to make updates and test. I will probably have to do changes straight on production. If I do a lot with plug-ins with these features, it should be minimal impact.

Oh, I'm sure bcooksley can set you up with a new dev site!

Well in regards to the website, what I would like to see is dedicated forums on Krita.org, I really loathe the kde forums (as a website, not as a community), it's definitely the worst forum site I have ever had to suffer through. A generic phpBB forum is vastly more comfortable to use than this one, the redirections are all out of whack and there is no reverse-navigation. (i.e. I can't go from this topic back to the forum it was in, I have to go all the way back to forum.kde.org (index) and then navigate back to here from there. These forums are the lowest of all low, and don't get me started on the abysmal user account system, I couldn't even select a proper login name and they require personal info, it's shameful really.

The KDE forums are fiendish for anyone who wants to join the discussions on Krita imo, so I think it would do a lot of good for our community if we had a dedicated forum on krita.org instead of this place. Anything is better than this. (But I guess it's what you'd expect from developers who refuse to have an option to remove the god damn cashew in their DE that nobody wants to see)

Just since we're on topic of websites I thought I might wanna bring that up. Naturally a sane forum setup would mean that we'd get a lot more active discussions on there which depending on how you view things can be both good and bad. But also isn't it a slightly attractive idea for your forums to be under your control instead of the KDE team?

Either way, I really hope that Krita will get properly funded. Hopefully more visibility of donation options and more users being aware of the financial status of the project will help a lot with that.

But also isn't it a slightly attractive idea for your forums to be under your control instead of the KDE team?

it isn't actually, because that's another thing to need to spend time on.

cestarian wrote:Well in regards to the website, what I would like to see is dedicated forums on Krita.org, I really loathe the kde forums (as a website, not as a community), it's definitely the worst forum site I have ever had to suffer through. A generic phpBB forum is vastly more comfortable to use than this one, the redirections are all out of whack and there is no reverse-navigation. (i.e. I can't go from this topic back to the forum it was in, I have to go all the way back to forum.kde.org (index) and then navigate back to here from there. These forums are the lowest of all low, and don't get me started on the abysmal user account system, I couldn't even select a proper login name and they require personal info, it's shameful really.

KDE forums are PhpBB.
What you're searching for should be displayed at all times as a grey navigation bar at the bottom of the viewport of your navigator.
It's hard to see actual UI improvements when you're too used to silly interfaces. It's also hard to notice them when they don't advertise themselves to your face (most sites actually have this bar at the top, with transitioning animation, to advertise themselves as an evolution of the good old top navigation bar + breadcrumbs combo).

This is called perceptual blindness.

I know it's phpBB, just not "generic" phpBB. It's heavily modified, in the bad kind of way.

And I don't know what you're looking at, but there really is no reverse navigation to go back to the forum where the thread was posted on my end. And that's not the worst part too, the worst part is how they handle new user registrations, it made me want to burn someone alive out of frustration (preferably the one responsible for that idiocy).

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There's nothing there for reverse navigation.

cestarian wrote:There's nothing there for reverse navigation.

In Firefox I have a bar with navigation menus at the very bottom of the browser. Didn't realise it was there myself until just now.

Oh wow what a stupid place to put it, and it's not even a full path it's a damned combo menu! but at least it's there. What idiot web developers to design the forums against the biases of users who already know how to browse forums made by sane devs. The reverse navigation is always at the same place except for this site where it's obscured at the bottom of your screen >_>

I really miss seeing "This Week in Krita" updates. I hope we can get back to those soon! I don't have access to irc atm and I feel so cut off from devs. Screenshots always get me excited haha. I remember getting super excited over bug fixes and stuff. Anyway, with the amount of networks that you guys manage, is it still possible to get these weekly updates back? I'd do it myself if I could, actually !;;
A while ago someone mentioned something like a bounty source type system. I'm not sure how that will work out but I'm sure that users get excited for new updates and features whether they pay for them or not. (that said, there are probably some things I want to fund like the flow parameter improvements . maybe in a future kickstarter? ;u;)
re: weird forum layout, it took a while to get used to but I think it's pretty fine. Can't view it in portrait mode on my phone though!

also i just checked the krita homepage and the see more news is kind of broken. I can see the pages but when i click the page numbers it still shows the same set of articles as on page one. pages show up in search though!

anyway, if there's any way i can help just let me know!

Any plans for EXR support? That would reach wider, professional community.

Here are some film professional community requests/ideas:

- 32bit EXR with layers is quite crucial for film professionals
- keyboard shortcuts presets (many professionals are used to commercial products. Being able to set keyboard shortcuts that imitates commercial product would help a lot.
- custom LUTs

Cheers!

You are lucky! 1 and 3 are possible already! (Though custom luts do need to be configured with an ocio config. Krita only understands configs.)

GSOC happening this year?