Nice looking site.

You may wish to replace the print and email icons with those from the Oxygen icon set, which can be found in KDESupport.

bcooksley wrote:Nice looking site.

You may wish to replace the print and email icons with those from the Oxygen icon set, which can be found in KDESupport.

Good suggestion. Will do. EDIT: DONE!

Kubuntiac, ping? We need you again for a bit -- I've created a faq page that needs to be published (and perhaps cleaned up), and Lukas Tvrdy wants to get started on a 2.1 visual tour page, so he needs his password. And we need to update the blog section on the front page, plus the gallery, so we can point krita.org to the new website.

Howdy ho all,

I've just been finishing off a crazy working-night-and-day-until-you-start-to-lose-track-of-what-is-night-and-what-is-day kind of project so appologies for being a bit out of contact. I'm still alive and keen to help though. (By the way, the project is a submission for the Independant Game Festival doing artwork with Krita, Inkscape, Karbon and Gimp! )

I'll get Lukas his user/pass tonight and publish the FAQ. I need some guidance as to what kind of content is wanted on the front page (for the mockup I just copied blog posts from various Krita contributors) and the files that are wanted for the gallery.

I'd love to get this all up and finalised before 2.1 final is tagged. Feel free to either post here or email me any specific requests. I'm not much of an IRC / mailing list person.

Anyway, I've got some quick stuff to finish off atm, but I'll be on the case later this evening.

Signing out.

Kubuntiac

OK, well Lukas has his username and password and I've cleaned up and published the FAQ page (not a fan of the old one? )

Now we just need the files to go in the tutorial gallery and to decide what content we'd like to appear on the home page.

Good to hear you're alive! And that sounds like a very cool project.

About the content: I have three .kra files and png thumbnails for the gallery, I'm not sure how I can add those: shall I just make a tarball and put it on my own webserver? I'll get started on a history page with lots of historical screenshots, and I can make a people page with the names and feats of everyone in the about box.

That reminds me... Do you want a place in the aboutbox of Krita as well?

Just tarball them and give me the link and I'll handle it. For screenshots, either I can handle this or if you anyone else wishes just:

Add screenshots by:

1. Create a new category for each version at Components > PhocaGallery > Categories > New button
2. Call it version x.y (ie 1.6 or 2.0)
3. Choose "Screenshots" from the parent category dropdown and click save. Note the category ID in the right hand column. Repeat for other versions.

Upload images by:

1. Going to Components > PhocaGallery > Images > New (or Multiple Add for more than 1)
2. Choosing the correct version from the Parent Category dropdown.
3. Filling in the details and clicking save.

Shgow images on any article (inc. the "Screenshots" article) by:

1. Inserting: {webgallery integration="phocagallery"}XX{/webgallery} and replacing XX with the category ID number noted in step 3 of the first section above.



Thanks for the offer of the about box. I think I'll decline as sticking up a website and filing a few bug reports doesn't seem worth distracting from people who've done much more. The thought's appreciated though.

Then I might have put the screenshots in the wrong folder . I was writing an article on Krita's history and adding the historical screenshots. I'll try again later this weekend.

But the gallery images are in http://www.valdyas.org/~boud/gallery.tgz.

That's cool. There's other ways of adding images more directly (such as the image button at the bottom of the content area), they just skip some of the fancy effects (like zooming photo albums etc).

It's also pretty easy to move things around.

The main thing I would suggest would be avoiding the image button *above* the content area for inserting images, although this is still good for changing things like adding meta info etc.

Thanks for the link to the images. I'll try to get onto those over the weekend.

Well, I've been beavering away on the website. A few wins to share and a pop quiz on preferences.

1. I've finally found a way of attaching .kra / .ora / other file types to images in the gallery. In fact we can attach any two files we like. You can see this now by visiting http://krita2d.org/index.php > gallery > paintings.

2. Galleries have now been "oxygenated". It's still a bit more over the top than I'd prefer, but trust me, it's 1000% better looking than the default Phoca Gallery icon set that was there. (Yeuch!)

3. There's now an easier way to add gallery images. I'll add a wiki page somewhere (techbase?). For the record, the gallery just as easily handles YouTube videos, too. Is anyone else thinking cool Krita painting timelapse videos? Now that would be an awesome way to show off any great painters that experiment with Krita!

4. The rather excellent demo files that Boud posted have been added. Unfortunately due to bug#211268, I can't open organic_machine.kra to make a larger viewable preview, but all the others are looking very nice.

Last, but not least, I need some feedback on everyone's preffered way of doing something. Specifically, I want to pull a list of Identi.ca dents about krita for the site. I've found two ways, both imperfect. They're both visible in the right hand column of the site at http://krita2d.org/index.php.

=======================================
Version 1 (listed under "Follow Krita"):
Create an Identi.ca account, follow contributors on Identi.ca and output it in the official identi.ca applet.

+ Official identica box
+ Shows avatar icons
+ Nicer formatting
- Fixed width in a fluid width template
- Picks up dents from Krita associated people that have nothing to do with Krita
- Worse yet, it would miss *every* dent about Krita by anyone else.


==============================================
Version 2 (listed under "Krita on Identi.ca"):
Pull an RSS feed of the tag "Krita" on Identica and display the last few.

+ Would show every dent tagged with Krita by anyone.
+ Fluid width so it adjusts to the width of the screen / column with the template
- No avatars!
- May show the occasional wierd dent if any nordic people tag their dent as "crayon" (ie Krita)



So what would everyone prefer to see on the site?

Looks very nice.

In the gallery all the images need also have the creator and the license. The .kra files should have size info, so that everybody knows what he is going to download.

Are the other images done with Krita? I think for the images in the gallery we might want to make the .kra/.ora file a requirement as is a showcase for Krita. Without that I always have the impression that any software could have been used.

Can you make the thumbnails a bit bigger? At the moment they are like stamp size, bigger images would make a better impression I think.

Version 2 has the risk that someone can hijack the box and post any stuff just by tagging as "Krita".

slangkamp wrote:In the gallery all the images need also have the creator and the license. The .kra files should have size info, so that everybody knows what he is going to download.

Done, done and done! It's a bit manual, but it's there. Only thing is I don't know who the artists or licenses are, so there's placeholders at the moment.

Are the other images done with Krita?

Other than the ones with .kra's attached, they're placeholders while we try and get some more together.

Without that I always have the impression that any software could have been used.

Unfortunately being in a .kra isn't much proof, and imo it's likely to keep most genuine submissions out. We don't have a .kra for *any* image seen on this forums gallery yet. That's what's been asked for though, so that's what's there.

Can you make the thumbnails a bit bigger?

Done! (after hours of digging through PhocaGallery's insanely complex configurations settings.)

Version 2 has the risk that someone can hijack the box and post any stuff just by tagging as "Krita".

True. Notice though that (at the moment) not one of the dents has anything to do with Krita in version 2. In version 1, every single one is Krita related.

Small updates:
1. We now have separate links for image licenses.
2. We now have text describing how to submit new showcase images on the main showcase/gallery page.

Now the BIG question...
What content do we actually want showing up on the homepage? Right now there's copies of a bunch of randomly chosen blogposts about Krita as placeholders. We can keep reposting stuff like this (along with any other bits we wish to share), but I'm thinking we can do better...

I'm kind of hoping that we can focus our web efforts a bit and start posting some of the more Krita focused posts from peoples different blogs, to being posted on the Krita site. The nice thing here, is that a single site with original content from many people would do much better than if the same content is spread across multiple sites. Assuming the Krita site will eventually be added to planet.kde.org, this would also help lower the number of "double entries" in people's feeds (ie content posted on planet.kde.org syndicated blog and then reposted on the Krita site). Obviously everyone is always free to post whatever they like on their blog (especially if linking back to the site ). It's more that *any* co-operation here would help the site, and thus Krita.

...or is anyone wanting something completely different altogether?

Ok... I've been thinking about the front page, and I think I would like the following:

Two articles, one fixed, the other changing every week. The fixed article, on top, is the fund raiser so we can have Lukas working full-time on Krita, The other article is "last week in Krita" where I give a this-week-in-svn like overview of what happened. I've got text for both articles ready and I'll add it to the website today. How does that sound?

Ok... The last-week-in-krita story is ready to replace the current front page content. The donation story needs some work and some input from KDE e.V. about the paypal link . Plus, I will prepare a dot story tonight, as well.