OK, *everything* here (especially the logo and domain name, which was a spare I had access to) is temporary and open to change. This is completely unofficial and not seen / blessed by any of the dev team.

That said, I've tried to integrate the ideas i've seen the devs float and keep it kind of KDE blue while in keeping with the Krita artistic flair. All the content has been pulled off various Krita blogs / elsewhere and would be changed / updated. The whole thing's pretty simple and was put up in a few hours using Joomla (a GPL CMS) and other GPL components.

I'm completely open to any change, although in my experience finding a nice template is fast, modifying it (even "minor" modifications) is usually excruciatingly slow.

Anyway, that said, without further ado I invite you to take a look at my (basic) proposal for a Krita website, currently (temporarily) sitting Here.

Feedback?

I like the design and the functions. Boud will look at this in the evening. Great job!

Thanks. There are very, very many rough edges, and I know that.

I think the basic layout and idea is there though, and it all works. Bottom line though, is that I've found when you stick something in front of people it at least gets the discussion going. When everyone figures out what they wante as a group, it's pretty quick and easy to build... as long as you stick to using the premade parts mainly.

Anyway, hope this helps. My way of saying thanks for all the code.

That's nice. I thought it would be a mockup first, but then discovered that you could actually interact with it.

Some suggestions:

• I think the website is a bit too wide. There are still people who use low resolutions (typical netbook is 1024x600, for example) and there are weird people like we who prefer to have the tab bar on the side.
  How about moving the second column, "What is Krita", to the top instead and make the text shorter?
• You can probably get a list of recent forum topics (similar to the list of dents). Just a hint

Otherwise, great work, very nice way to say thanks.

Lovely! It's indeed a little too wide -- I'm still on 1024x768 (also for nearly all Krita development...), and the menu didn't fit. By a great coincidence I've also found someone who wants to work on the technical side of the website, so who knows? -- we might get somewhere!

Are there any technical requirements to get this implemented? We've got a basic drupal install now, but we aren't wedded to that...

besides what others already pointed out, looks very nice.

Hans wrote:

• You can probably get a list of recent forum topics (similar to the list of dents). Just a hint

Hey, that's a great idea. I know there's a module for Joomla (and I'm sure there'd likely be one for Drupal, too) to list items from an RSS feed... and I know that these forums have an ubercool "smart feed" thinggie that can list posts on a specific forum... so that should (famous last words) be pretty easy. That would also be a nice tie between the forums and the website. In my mind it would be great to link between the two as much as possible to make sure people find (and use) the benefits of both.

I think it would also be useful to have links to whatever other web2.0 type accounts Krita has, eg if we have a Facebook page, and to a YouTube (or better yet Blip.tv as they supportogg) channel.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. It's appreciated!

boudewijn wrote:Are there any technical requirements to get this implemented? We've got a basic drupal install now, but we aren't wedded to that...

Not sure what you mean. There's a few things I'd still improve (like what people have said above). We'd need to either point krita's domain name to my host, or move the files and database to yours. we'd want to put in the final content. Other than that, unless there's something I've missed, we're good to go.

I guess the one question is re: Drupal / Joomla. I know Joomla, but very little about Drupal (other than that theming Drupal 5 seemed very, very difficult!). Sounds like there's someone else helping who knows Drupal, though. They both seem like good GPL content systems. If anything I'd say Drupals a bit more flexible with some coding, while Joomla's a bit more user friendly, with more pre-made themes and extensions that are easier to install. (thus begins the flamewar...)

If we want Drupal, and someone who knows it wants to run with it then great. If we're happy with Joomla, I can do most things. Seems to me we just need some kind of decision.

I'm missing links for download and screenshots.

About Joomla: I think we should go with the system that gets the job done. So far not much happened with the Drupal approach, so switching to Joomla isn't a big problem I think.

Just my 2 cents:

As pretty all of the standalone KDE sites are based on drupal i would advise to go for it. Also, to me the drupal theming looks way more customizable (for future needs) than the joomla one (did work with joomla in the past but decided to drop it). But that is probably a matter of taste mostly. I just like the templating system more (reminds me of phpbb )

Anyway, if you need help with that, you can ping me.

slangkamp wrote:I'm missing links for download and screenshots.

Just click on the thumbnail image in the first post and it will take you to the site.

I think we should go with the system that gets the job done.

Same here. I just don't want to start a CMS Holy War!

Kubuntiac wrote:

slangkamp wrote:I'm missing links for download and screenshots.

Just click on the thumbnail image in the first post and it will take you to the site.

I mean the "main menu" on the site is missing these links.

slangkamp wrote:I mean the "main menu" on the site is missing these links.

Ah, gotcha. I created a category in the Galley for screenshots, but yeah, it would make sense to have a link straight there from the main menu. Being able to download Krita would also obviously be a good thing. lol.

neverendingo wrote:Just my 2 cents:

As pretty all of the standalone KDE sites are based on drupal i would advise to go for it. Also, to me the drupal theming looks way more customizable (for future needs) than the joomla one (did work with joomla in the past but decided to drop it). But that is probably a matter of taste mostly. I just like the templating system more (reminds me of phpbb )

Anyway, if you need help with that, you can ping me.

Hey neverendigo,

I just realised I completely missed your post here. Anyway, I'm completely open to whatever the team wants to use. I just know Joomla and know almost no Drupal. The Drupal experience I had was very nice on setup, ok on installing modules, but excruciatingly painful on theming. I'm aware that there was talk at the time of trying to make the next Drupal (6) better on theming, but Joomla's been great for me, so I haven't tried Drupal since.

I guess what I'm saying is that if the team is happy to do a Joomla based site, I'm happy to go right ahead and get it going. I did the site in the first post in a few hours, so you know it won't take forever! If the team wants to go with Drupal, that's great, too. I'm just of very little help there. I can do a vanilla install and maybe an .svg mockup... but that's about the limit of my skills. I'd suggest that *whichever* way we go though, that we use only pre-made themes and modules/extensions. I can happily put in a few hours like I did with this. I don't have weeks to spend on design changes and coding stuff from scratch is just excessive and slow.

My feeling is that right Krita just needs a site that is up and working more than any one feature. Whatever gets the job done by the people willing and able to do it.