Hello all,

I have spent some time to think about this but I haven't got any good solution yet. What is the best way to access the pop up palette? Right now it can be accessed by right clicking, but that is not good because there is no way to distinguish single-click and double-click.

Current ideas:
1. Double-left-click: not good for the reason explained above
2. Double-right-click: not good for the same reason
3. Right-click: reserved
4. CTRL+(a key): What key? Hard to use for tablet (PC) users
5. Tool tip behaviour - when the mouse coordinate doesn't move for say 0.5 seconds then the palette will show up: irritating
6. Middle-click (by Cyrille): Hard to access for some tablet users(?) But the best possible solution.

Any thoughts? We also need keyboard short cut aside of mouse/tablet short cut

EDIT: The new feature is up on the trunk, simply double click on the canvas. More information can be found on krita.org

Some special mouse/stylus gesture?

Some special mouse/stylus gesture?

Could you specify more?

Cyrille suggested for middle click. He also said that we need a keyboard short cut as well.

What about holding the left mouse button down? That's how Windows XP Tablet Edition accesses alternative menus. When you hold the mouse button / stylus down in one place for about 1/2 a second it comes up with the alternative menu. On XP Tablet Edition they also start drawing a circle quickly around the cursor to show it's doing something until the menu comes up, but this could be optional.

My understanding of what Cyrille said was that it was important to have a GUI way to access any function (button / menu item), not that it was important to have keyboard shortcuts for mouse actions. I think having a mouse/stylus action and a menu item would do the job nicely... Cyrille?

The problem with that idea is the same with double-left-clicking: there is no way for the system to distinguish left-click+hold (calling palette) and left-click (painting). Right now, the palette can be accessed by middle click which works great with graphical tablet. I am still not sure about this implementation because it used to be reserved for swapping foreground and background colour. This raises another question: do you mind to have the pop up palette instead of swapping the colours?

Now that it is (a bit) established, where should I put the button on the GUI? Next to 'save to palette' button? But won't that be a lot of buttons there? Or perhaps I need some new icons to represent 'save to palette' button and 'show pop up palette' button? Sorry, I am not a good GUI designer..

shicmap wrote:Right now, the palette can be accessed by middle click which works great with graphical tablet. I am still not sure about this implementation because it used to be reserved for swapping foreground and background colour. This raises another question: do you mind to have the pop up palette instead of swapping the colours?

I don't mind using the middle click, swaping between just 2 colors is kind of limited and old, so showing a palette is a improvement
(I believe there's the x key for swaping colors anyway)

as for the keyboard shortcut, something that can be easy to type... uhmm, I don't have krita right now for test which one

shicmap wrote:Now that it is (a bit) established, where should I put the button on the GUI? Next to 'save to palette' button? But won't that be a lot of buttons there? Or perhaps I need some new icons to represent 'save to palette' button and 'show pop up palette' button?

uhm! I really need to recompile Krita, I don't remember seeing those buttons!

m4v wrote:I don't mind using the middle click, swaping between just 2 colors is kind of limited and old, so showing a palette is a improvement
(I believe there's the x key for swaping colors anyway)

That's great I have disabled it, but if you want I can enable it again.

m4v wrote:uhm! I really need to recompile Krita, I don't remember seeing those buttons!

It's on the toolbar