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Interactions between Krita and G'MIC (filter collection) ?

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Silvio Grosso
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Hello harmony,

Just out of curiosity : Why did you install the .msi installer ?
Perhaps, is it for testing purposes... ?
From what I have gathered by reading this forum so far, in terms of speed, both methods (Zip vs .msi) should be quite similar.

During every Krita Kickstarter, many "testing" versions are released and I think it is pretty "normal" to get these packaging problems with the Windows installers :)
As far as I am concerned I always prefer to download the zip version because it looks "safer" (but again, I have read that also the .msi installer does not modify any important key in the Windows registry...)
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I am one of the people that used to "complain" that there where no zips to test.

We had to keep installing and lose the stable version just to test. In this case I was just for testing, surely they should both work, regardless? most of the time I do get the zip. ^-^
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Hmm, on my PC, msi install works fine and fixed G'mic crash. (I did uninstall the old 2.9.4.7 package before installing the new one)
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I am on Win7 64 and just starting to experiment with the G'MIC filters. In general things have gone really well and I'm super impressed with the integration but I do have one request....

could something be done about the spinning blue "state" cursor getting stuck in Windows? It seems that once this gets set in the G'MIC then you never might get the initial cursor back again. This presents two difficulties. 1] since Windows uses the cursor to tell you when it's busy then you never really know when it's busy again "for real". 2] Even if cancel out of G'Mic the blue spinning cursor remains in the Krita interface. The only way to get rid of it is to close and restart the app.

Let me know if that sounded as confusing to you as it did to me and I'll try and come up with a better way to describe it.

thanks
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askinner wrote:I am on Win7 64 and just starting to experiment with the G'MIC filters. In general things have gone really well and I'm super impressed with the integration but I do have one request....

could something be done about the spinning blue "state" cursor getting stuck in Windows? It seems that once this gets set in the G'MIC then you never might get the initial cursor back again. This presents two difficulties. 1] since Windows uses the cursor to tell you when it's busy then you never really know when it's busy again "for real". 2] Even if cancel out of G'Mic the blue spinning cursor remains in the Krita interface. The only way to get rid of it is to close and restart the app.

Let me know if that sounded as confusing to you as it did to me and I'll try and come up with a better way to describe it.

thanks


Can you tell me how to reproduce this busy cursor bug?
I'm not able to do that on Linux, but I will try on Windows.
Please be specific about the steps you did (which filter you used, etc.)


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Silvio Grosso
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Hello askinner,

> askinner wrote:
> could something be done about the spinning blue "state" cursor getting stuck in Windows?

I have been trying to reproduce your problem ("spinning blue state cursor") myself on Windows 7 - 64 bit (with Krita 2.9.4).

For instance:
- with big jpeg images with the Shapeism filter (under the Artistic group);
- as soon as you click Ok (to execute this filter) the mouse's cursor is not longer available (there is a running blue circle instead);
- this is quite normal because G'MIC takes quite a lot of time to execute this specific filter; :)
- to stop running the Shapeism filter and get back my mouse's cursor, currently, I open G'MIC once again, and I simply close once more;
- needless to say, by doing so, I shut down the shapeism filter as well (which is no longer applied to my image in the end...).

With Gimp 2.8.14 - Windows 7 (and the latest G'MIC version 1.6.3.1) you can stop every filter directly on the GIMP canvas (by pressing on the red X).
In short, after having clicked Ok on G'MIC to execute your filter, you can simply click on the red X to shut down the filter, on the Gimp canvas itself (thus the G'MIC filter stops immediately).

Here is my screenshot of GIMP 2.8.14 (G'MIC 1.6.3.1) to show what I mean:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/309 ... OPTION.png

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Thank you for the reply. Many of the tests that I've tried I'm convinced that the filter has completed its work but the blue ring just hasn't gone away.

I don't see a red 'x'. I see the following in Krita's bottom right-hand corner:

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Silvio Grosso
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Hello askinner,

> askinner wrote:
> Many of the tests that I've tried I'm convinced that the filter has completed its work but the blue ring just hasn't gone away.

Today, I have tried myself several G'MIC filters (with Krita 2.9.4.7 ZIP version, installed on Windows 7 - 64 bit)
My hardware is:
- CPU Intel Core I7 2630QM
- 8 giga RAM.
BTW, at present, G'MIC filters do not take advantage of your GPU (graphic card). As a consequence, this hardware is not important for benchmark testing.

As usual, some G'MIC filters are extremely slow and, naturally, this is especially true with big images.
In the end, however, every filter is always applied to my image.
Therefore, the "blue circle running", which is the timer, stops running and the mouse cursor is again ready to work on Krita.

> I don't see a red 'x'.

Yep. This is quite normal :)

In short, with Krita 2.9.4.7 you run the 1.6.1.0 version of G'MIC.
On the contrary, with Gimp 2.8.14 (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/) you can install the latest verions of G'MIC, that is, 1.6.3.1 (from here: http://gmic.eu/download.shtml).
For instance, with Gimp 2.8.14 (not Krita 2.9.4.7) you can click on the red X (see my screenshot in the previous post) and stop every G'MIC filter while is running.
The latest version (G'MIC 1.6.3.1) is currently only available for Gimp. It has much more features compared to the 1.6.1.0 version shipped with Krita.
See this screenshot as regards G'MIC 1.6.3.1 (64 bit) installed on GIMP 2.8.14 (64 bit as well):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/309 ... ERSION.png


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