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krita on windows tool options docker missing? Where is it?

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michaelparent
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Hi,

I'm new to Krita and love it, but am having a big and silly issue. I cant find the tool options docker anywhere... it not in the list of dockers, and its not on my screen. How can such a critical part of the interface be so hard to find? What am I missing?

It;s very frustrating because every tutorial and manual just starts with it already there on screen, in the interface... but I don't have it and there's no way I can find to get it to appear.

any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike

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It should be impossible to lose the tool docker, which is why it's not in the docker list. And it should be open by default as well...

What you could try is to go to the workspace select (the two overlapping windows in the upper toolbar) and select 'default' from there.
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I've seen a bunch of these reports recently, and I think I know what's up: somehow I guess it's possible to drag-resize the tool docker and make it zero pixels wide. It shouldn't be possible, but it's the only explanation I have since it _is_ impossible to close it!
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Thanks, I found the workspace select icon and picking one of the options brought back the tool options panel, but there was no option called "default".

TheraHedwig wrote:It should be impossible to lose the tool docker, which is why it's not in the docker list. And it should be open by default as well...

What you could try is to go to the workspace select (the two overlapping windows in the upper toolbar) and select 'default' from there.
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Hi boudewijn,

Kritta is awesome. But I'm certain I never shrunk any "docker" to the point of non-existence....especially such a critical one. If you're seeing a lot of reports of this docker missing, its not because suddenly after decades of using software with windows (dockers) in them we suddenly developed a bizarre habit of shrinking them to non-existance for no apparent reason.

There's got to be some other reason this critically important docker is disappearing on people other than we're becoming possessed and doing incredibly bizarre behavior we would never do under any circumstance. (grab the edge or corner of a window and shrink it into oblivion)

But obviously limiting the size it can be shrunk to is (fixing the shrink to oblivion bug) is an important step in eradicating this very frustrating problem.

boudewijn wrote:I've seen a bunch of these reports recently, and I think I know what's up: somehow I guess it's possible to drag-resize the tool docker and make it zero pixels wide. It shouldn't be possible, but it's the only explanation I have since it _is_ impossible to close it!


thanks,
Mike
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Well, the reason I started to think this is because it also happened to someone who wanted to make the docker 1 icon wide. I'm not suspecting uncontrolled mouse movements by users, but rather layout code that gets confused under some circumstances.
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I kept trying to right click a tools icon in hopes that I could pull up the missing tool options docker that way. Maybe consider adding something like this, where even if its on screen and just buried under a palette tab, or minimized etc, it would come to front, maximize etc.

Cheers,
Mike

boudewijn wrote:Well, the reason I started to think this is because it also happened to someone who wanted to make the docker 1 icon wide. I'm not suspecting uncontrolled mouse movements by users, but rather layout code that gets confused under some circumstances.
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I too have encountered this issue. I recently upgraded to 2.9 and since then my Tool Options tab is non existent. Its not even listed in the menu to configure toolbars. It's like it was never installed.

**UPDATE**

I've solved the problem with the help of random clicking. If you click the "Choose Workspace" icon and then select "Big Paint", the Tool Options tab magically appears next to the brush presets.
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Same issue with the lime ppa version 2.9. The tool options docker is non existent. I think because I selected to have it in the toolbar from krita general settings.
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liviofania wrote:Same issue with the lime ppa version 2.9. The tool options docker is non existent. I think because I selected to have it in the toolbar from krita general settings.

Then it ought to be next to the brush settings in the toolbar?

You can't have both docker and toolbar dropdown at the moment.
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Had this problem. Took hours, and of course it was simple. There was a single tab on the right called "T...s" or "...s". I could not resize it, but I could undock it. Once I did, I still could not resize it. I finally noticed that the arrow on the left faced to the right instead of down like all the other tabs. When I clicked the arrow, I was able to resize the undocked window and found that it was the missing "Tool Options". Redocking the window works fine and clicking the arrow behaves as it should. This was on a Win8.1 machine that had been updated from Krita 2.9.5.0 to 2.9.7.6

The same problem did not exist in a fresh install of Krita 2.9.8.0 on a seperate Win7 machine.

Maybe the tab was getting initialized to a '0' or invalid pixel size on install/upgrade?
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So I wasted the last hour trying to find the missing tool options as well. How can such a critical thing get hidden?!!! And how come there is no MENU option to bring it back? If so many people report it, this should definitely a usability bug. Now let me go back to Gimp to get things done.
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Can you calm down a bit? There is a menu option to get the tool docker back. That option was removed, back in the days, by someone who tried to make it impossible to remove the tool docker itself. If you say there's no menu option, you cannot be talking about the tool options docker, you must be talking about the toolbox itself. Since 2.9.9 (iirc), it's possible to place the tool option docker as a pop-up in the top toolbar, but you have to go to the settings dialog to explicitly enable that option.

In any case, if you mess up your docker configuration, your easiest option is to go to the right-most top toolbar button and select one of the default workspaces. That will restore everything for you.
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Maybe this will help others:

In my case the tool options docker was missing upon upgrade of version 2.9.11. It was not resized or anything. The solution for me was going to *user*/AppData/Roaming/krita and deleting the contents on that folder. Unpon restart the missing docker reappeared.
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try this : farthest one in the toolbar (choose workspace) click on Bigpaint. worked for me after so many frustrating moments.


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