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francescobona
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Color Selector issue

Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:30 am
The color selectors issue is still there even in the new 3.0 version.
As already reported in the past: the advanced colour selectors and colour sliders don't select colors outside of sRGB color space so, workin with a wilder color space, is not possible to do that without switching to the Specific Color Selector.....
I do not understand why this is considered a marginal problem..
The capability of right choosing the color saturation - vilsually and directly - from the main color selectors is essential for a designer.
I really respect and appreciate the work of developers but I think resolving problems or well known macroscopic bags is more urgent than release new features.
If you need to drive a car with a flat tire you certainly hope the mechanic will change the tire .. rather than install a new sound system...
So please :'( please someone fix that car... :'(
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Re: Color Selector issue

Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:44 pm
When you go to a mechanic to have your car fixed, 500 euro is usually on the lower end, of what you pay.
The krita Kickstarter for this year is still running, and for 500 euro a Krita developer will work on your bug for up to a week.
No mechanic i know is that cheap!
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Re: Color Selector issue

Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:59 pm
I'm one of the people who are supporting the Krita Kickstarter project so I don't feel guilty for reporting an issue.
Moreover.. You're a brilliant example analyzer but... 500 euro to repair a tire? Who is the mechanic? Adrian Newey?
Joking apart.... fixing this bug will surely be not as easy as repairing a tire but - I repeat - latest new features are definitely more expensive to develop.
Crowdfunding has been invested on certain things and not on others. This is not a money problem.
This is only a divergence of priorities and I represent the minority so the only thing I can do is come here and ask when this issue will be considered.
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Re: Color Selector issue

Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:06 am
It's not a marginal problem. It's an extremely complicated one because of the many toggles involved. Having a proper internal selector that can select full wide gamut colors for the filters is part of my gsoc, but I cannot promise I will be able to tackle the hsx based color selectors.
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Re: Color Selector issue

Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:26 am
Unbelievable.............. So the software will continue to be more and more feature rich .. hiding this problem forever?
Unintelligible plan... As if openoffice had released a cloud document syncronization without first resolving a bug preventing to write the "k" letter.
I repeat that it's only a divergence of priorities: promoting new features consciously neglecting a lack like this is very disrespectful to users and crowdfunding suporters.
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Re: Color Selector issue

Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:06 am
I dunno, what I find unbelievable is dat you decide that your problem is much more important than everyone elses problem, but not important enough to consider it is more intricate than replacing a tire on a car.

I am gonna be straight with you. It is not a marginal problem, but it sure as hell is a less important problem than me not getting my university courses. And if you are wondering "why is this stupid volunteer being responsible for the color management code? >:-(", well, you are the one who doesn't want to pay 500 euro for replacing what you think is a tire. It is not a tire you are replacing, because Krita is not a goddamn car, and 500 euro is cheap for fixing a complicated bug in krita's code that requires a deep understand of the architecture, OCIO, LCMS and color management in general.

If you care about color management, you can go into the kickstarter, donate, and vote for either 12 or 15, the latter solving an equally important problem: gradients not being able to use colors outside of sRGB, nor able to generate more than 255 values in between. Or indeed, you can donate 500 euro to have this bug fixed personally.

But don't sit there and complain I don't care, especially as I spent a lot of time on color management and simplifying it for users, despite their insistence that color management is stupid, smells bad, and all we really need is srgb and cmyk. It is insulting, and almost makes me want to give up on my gsoc(https://phabricator.kde.org/T2337), as apparantly there's no end to the ever continuing ungratefulness no matter what I do.
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Re: Color Selector issue

Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:29 am
francescobona wrote:Unbelievable.............. So the software will continue to be more and more feature rich .. hiding this problem forever?
Unintelligible plan... As if openoffice had released a cloud document syncronization without first resolving a bug preventing to write the "k" letter.
I repeat that it's only a divergence of priorities: promoting new features consciously neglecting a lack like this is very disrespectful to users and crowdfunding suporters.


Unbelievable indeed. I haven't got words... Well, I have them, but the forum's nanny filter would filter them out. We fixed over a thousand bugs in the past year, but no, since we haven't implemented your feature request yet, you feel you're entitled to make ridiculous statements like this. No, your pet feature isn't something that 99% of Krita users need. Yes, we would like to implement it; no, you're not making us more eager to do the work by posting entitled twaddle like this.

If you want to be a positive member of this community, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Color Selector issue

Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:12 pm
99% of Krita users don't need it maybe.. but 99% of Krita users with a wide gamut environment just don't know they are picking the wrong color value.....
By now they are not able to choose the full gamut of a color from the main color selector. And you think it's a pet feature......
Ok guys, It's clear we have a different conception of what is important for a drowing software. I do not want to offend anyone. I don't want to bother you more.
Bye.


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