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UI improvements - What Krita can learn from MSpaint!

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crazyaga
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First of all i want to say that i love Krita. however, i think the Krita UI can have some major improvements.
I will make here 4 points that should be "fairly easy" to implement that will greatly improve the Krita UI and make it more intuitive.

1. Improvement number one: a special menu for selections, no pop-up color pallete when using the selection tool!
MSpaint is a very simple program. however, despite its simplicity, it has a very intuitive UI that is very easy to use. while the Krita pop-palette is useful when using the brush tool, lets compare what happens with the mouse right click in both krita and MSpaint when using the selection tool:
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As you can easily see, right clicking in MSpaint gives you much more useful options that actually relate to the tool you are using. i think Krita should implement a similar list as well. let me add that i think an option to pop-up the tool options docker in addition to the "MsPaint-like" menu will also be a great, useful addition. which will move us to the next point.

2. Easy access to the tool options menu
So, after we drop the color palette pop-up completely for selection tools, with the brush tools the pop up color palette can be made even better. There should be a little button that will allow you to easily access the tool options docker, and "pop it up" right below the pop up color palette:
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This will also allow for people who are new to the program to access the tool options docker more easily and more intuitively.

3. Drag points around the canvas for easy and intuitive resizing.
Another lesson that can be learned from MSpaint! let's look at the canvas in mspaint:
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As you can see, there are points around the canvas that allow you to resize it easily and intuitively. krita in my opinion would benefit from a similar feature. (just that in krita those points should be on all sides and corners)

4. A seperate Eraser tool in addition to the brush one
While this doesn't bother me at all, but some people like having an eraser tool as a separate tool in their tools docker. so i think it would be beneficial to have that option there for them - it should basically be a brush in eraser settings. i mean, no one will lose for having that option.
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Oh, and i forgot another thing.

5. There should be an option to "Select all layers" in the tool options of all select tools.
The fact there was no option to select all layers at once (or at least i haven't found that option), made even the process of making something as simple as the images in this thread take longer. please, have a little square that you can check that will make you select all layers at once, and apply changes to all of them at once in the selected area
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These aren't easy to implement. Also read this carefully

1. It is proly useful, but who would implement it?

2. we're going to have quick access brush settings there, but that was difficult as it was already considered a cluttered palette.

3 is already there: https://docs.krita.org/Working_with_Ima ... the_canvas (second image)

4 is something that has been discussed: https://phabricator.kde.org/D549

5 is in the layer menu, and has no place in the selection tool options docker.
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Thanks for reading my suggestions!
I will respond.

1. well i just made a suggestion that i thought will improve the UI.

2. well honestly my thoughts behind having the tool options docker there is to help people find the stabilizer as well as allowing for a quick access to changing properties of tools.

3. the point was that the points should be always there and drag-able with any tool to make resizing the canvas more easily accessible. but i guess just having the crop tool is fine

4. well i only said it because i introduced krita to someone who did not like the lack of a seperate eraser tool

5. I'm not talking about selecting layers in the layer menu, im talking about selecting things on your painting that belong to different layers all at once. i think that should be in the selection tool menu because well, you use the selection tool when making selections.
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5 is already there is the only tool which it matters to: the contiguous selection tool(the wand selection)

It's by default even.
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I think the same check-box should be made for all selection tools. its not relevant just for the contiguous selection tool.

When i made the pictures in this thread, i had to do some copy-pasting of screenshots which resulted in me having them in different layers. if the square selection tool had a checkbox to select all layers at once, i could have moved those pasted screenshots without ever moving between layers
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Also can i know why the contiguous selection tool makes a squared selection like in pic related:

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I clicked on the front-most red apple. It does this thing even with different levels of fuzziness enabled.
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I may be mistaking your point 2, but Presets (brushes) options and tool settings can easily be access by the F5 and F4 keys, (or your customized ones), on demand, you can also have a tool settings as a docker and fix it where ever feels confortable, even floating by itself. I prefer the tools settings in the toolbar, easy to open with a single click.

On your last picture (continous selection) it seems as if there is a square on top with a brush stroke right on the apple in a zero opacity layer, but difficult to tell the culprit with out seen your layers.


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What i was talking about in point 2 was the "Tool options" docker.

Also, about the weird contiguous selection tool bug, It does a weird "Square border" selection even when the image of the apples is THE ONLY layer in the file, but right now it seems to happen only with higher fuzziness settings.
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Yes, the Tools Options and Tools Settings is the same thing : ), you can have it as a pop up window or as a docker, I find the first one much better, since I can place the floating window where ever I need it, and is open and closed with a single key F4 (default). If you haven't, you should give a try, you may find it more appealing than as a docker, may be not, but is worth a try.

In case you haven't used it just go to Settings>Configure Krita>General>Tools then choose your preferred way: Toolbar or Docker.


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