Hi,

I am using KDE since 10 years, when I started using Linux. My favorite distro
was openSuse since years, but this year I switched to Fedora (KDE spin), but
that's an other story...
I tried Gnome2/3 and Xfce but my productive system was always running on KDE.
There are a lot of improvements and nice features/programs like Amarok or the
"new" K-menue in KDE4, nice 3D effects, there is an easy way to download and
install new wallpapers or new designs, a great file manager dolphin and much
more.
But unfortunately there are a couple of thinks I don't like and I want to
discuss in this board.

1) KMAIL2: kmail2 is crashing when I open an HTML mail with
the options
"prefer html view before plaintex" = ON
"mails are allowed to load external references" = ON
There is already a bug report:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295534
please fix this. The old kmail did not crash in this situation. In my opinion
that are basic tasks for a mail-client.

2) KMAIL2/KAdressbook: there are no suggest email addresses in the to / cc
fields when your want to write a new mail.
There is also a bug-report since October 2011.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284681
Again: this is a basic feature for a mailclient.

3) KMAIL2: the Filter is not working. When you create an filter to sort mails
in directories, nothing happens at receiving mails. You have to select all new
mails an apply the filter with STRG+J manually.
In kmail1 I did not have any problems in filtering mails.

Already discussed:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=95821
Bug documented:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299968
or
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255388

4) pulseaudio: I had several problems with pulseaudio. In openSuse 11.4 the
sound worked well and suddenly it stop working in one session. You had to
reboot or log-out/in the user to have sound. That is really a basis thing and
users don't accept problems with sound. ALSA worked since years without any
problems. Why is it necessary to develop a new sound server like pulseaudio?
The users have absolutely no benefit. Workaround: switch the sound server with
two / three mouseclicks to ALSA, but a newbie would have problems to fix this
issue. Actually I don't have problems with pulseaudio in Fedora 17, lets hope
that will be stable. My wish is: just keep in mind: witch benefit have the user
and is it stable enough to spreed new software?

5) KWallet: in KDE 4.8 and maybe in 4.7 you need to activate the KWallet to
save your pop3 passwords in kmail. But every time you login in KDE, KWallet
want your password again. Actually its not possible to open the KWallet with
your KDE-login-password (single sign on). In KMAIL2 it is no possibility to
save your password without KWallet like in KMAIL1. There is a request since
2004! to have the possibility to get access to KWallet via login password:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92845
That feature would make working with KDE much more easily.

6) KMAIL2/Akonadi: there must by a bug in the option: check mail on startup
KMAIL2 do not fetch mail at program-start. You have to fetch the mails
manually. In kmail1 it worked well.


I would be very pleased to know that the development team would work on that
problems. When I read the buglists, I have the impression that some maintainer
are working on fixes for a long time or even never. There are thousands
open bugs in KDE! In my opinion it would be better to focus on fixing bugs than
on implement new features.
Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful on the developers for their really great work on KDE!!!!! I would really like to help, but my C skills are modest.


Thanxs Stefan
(sorry for my English...)

As for 2: if I recall correctly, I have seen post somewhere on this forums that this is fixed as on 4.9 (which should be released soon; if you are using OpenSUSE, then there should be packages for beta/RC versions).
As for 4: KDE SC does not need PulseAudio for working. I have KDE SC installed and working just fine, while I do not have PA. If you do, then this is your distribution's default setting and you should talk with it's developers. KDE devs has nothing to do with this. You may also talk with PA developers and tell them how they can improve their software.

Generally: you can help by triaging bugs. Martin Gräßlin has blogged about it recently. Although he talked about KWin, pretty much the same applies to any software (not only KDE's). Just get in touch with KDE PIM developers and ask what would then need.

Hi Mirosław,

thanks for your fast response.
as for 2) I am looking forward to Version 4.9 and hope that problem is fixed.
Thanks for that Info.
as for 4) yes you are wright! Pulseaudio is not KDE. When I will find new problems in pulseaudio I will wright a bugreport in the pulseaudio bug tracking system.

Your proposal sounds interesting regarding help by triaging bugs. I'll think about it!


Stefan

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Fedora 17, KDE 4.8.4

Minio wrote:Generally: you can help by triaging bugs. Martin Gräßlin has blogged about it recently. Although he talked about KWin, pretty much the same applies to any software (not only KDE's). Just get in touch with KDE PIM developers and ask what would then need.

It has been only a week, and now KMail developers ask for help in bug triaging. So there is opportunity for all users not satisfied with KMail2 quality.

If you are talking to developers, you may want to ask 'em about this problem too...
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=107290

KDE Developers have no control over what distributions ship in terms of the underlying platform. While we could request they review this, the people who maintain the KDE packages tend to be different to those who look after CD/DVD/BD tools.

bcooksley wrote:KDE Developers have no control over what distributions ship in terms of the underlying platform. While we could request they review this, the people who maintain the KDE packages tend to be different to those who look after CD/DVD/BD tools.

For this I want to excuse me to all the people who are involved in KDE,
I had the absolutly wrong information the KDE-developers are not only working together whith the debian-developers
my information 'til yesterday night was, they're the same.
This surely makes a BIG difference
& in this case I'll like to bet you, to delete the relevant not true postings

I want to thank you for your big work around in this
and once again
please excuse this misunderstanding from my side

The problem

1) KMAIL2: kmail2 is crashing when I open an HTML mail with
the options

seems to be fixed in KDE 4.9.0! I am still testing the other issues.

Stefan