Upstream knows about the issues, and are working to resolve them. Most of them are implementation shortcomings caused by the feature being very young.
Plus we used the KDE4 PPA for hardy to do testing to look for needed changes in Intrepid, which is how we found these problems in the first place.

hakim wrote:[*]Kwin effects are horribly SLOW (with compiz fusion I get ~600 fps & with kwin effects mere 70 fps (YES, 70 fps!));

And your monitor has 600Hz refresh rate to make you actually see it? Or, maybe, it runs at 70Hz and Compiz does 530 useless repaints per second?

djouallah wrote:

irina_r wrote:What irks me most is that Kubuntu doesn't have support for activities yet-- one of the things I was looking forward to most, and in fact what I upgraded for.

au contraire madam, it was the best/pragmatic thing introduced by kubuntu dev for kde4.1, we all know managing activities in kde4.1 is ... not optimal, no need to scary new users with zoom out/in.

Well, not all users are new users, and I don't see why everybody should be kept from trying something that some people might be scared of. I'm switching to OpenSuSE as soon as the new version comes out; I've had it with being protected from features that may be "not optimal". I smell the "everybody is either a developer or a newbie" mindset here, and I don't like it one bit.

We'd otherwise be blamed for a buggy ZUI because poor poor Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu. :S The quality is just not there.

Just a bit OT.
I just dist-upgraded my sidux with kde4 from experimental and got the versions 4.1.3 of some packages. All works fine here, seems that it is just a bit faster...At least faster than "redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu" Really, KDE4 from Debian experimental is much more stable and faster than my Kubuntu testing installation. Don't know the reasons.

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~$ konsole --version
Qt: 4.4.3
KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3)
Konsole: 2.1


Greez w.

Seli wrote:

hakim wrote:[*]Kwin effects are horribly SLOW (with compiz fusion I get ~600 fps & with kwin effects mere 70 fps (YES, 70 fps!));

And your monitor has 600Hz refresh rate to make you actually see it? Or, maybe, it runs at 70Hz and Compiz does 530 useless repaints per second?

Actually I use 75Hz and most CRT display users need 100Hz or even more. 70fps is maximum I get with Kwin effects, it gets even lower than that. Also I forgot to mention artifacts that appear when using kwin effects.

Now concerning 600fps. If you had Ferrari and it wouldn't go faster than 100km/h, but you would be driving in some busy city mostly. Wouldn't it be a big drawback?

I like the new Version from Kubuntu,it is on my Dell XPS M1330 much more stable than
Kubuntu 8.04.

right.. there is still a lot of work to do..

ad.13) thats because you replace kwin eg. metacity with compiz.. use kwin only and you'll see a smooth fade to the desktop.. really nice..[hr]

waldelf wrote:right.. there is still a lot of work to do..

ad.13) thats because you replace kwin eg. metacity with compiz.. use kwin only and you'll see a smooth fade to the desktop.. really nice..[hr]

As I mentioned before KDE effects are UNUSABLE for me.

They constrained me to switch to gnome at least until KDE 4.2.