Zarin wrote:All of those are symptoms of having an incorrectly installed or corrupt system. I highly recommend you reinstall absolutely everything or try a different distribution. None of the problems are caused by KDE but rather are downstream from us and we cannot control those.

What do you mean?

Yes, I agree with reinstalling. It seems like the best alternative. There are too many issues. I cannot try anything using the CLI since I am unable type when in the terminal.

Somehow the upgrade went wrong but I disagree with the implication that it's 100% user (error).

I never said it was a user error. It's also quite common that there was a distribution packaging error that caused the corruption.

That makes sense, imho. I tried adding a user but it didn't seem to make a difference. I guess if I want to still try it out, it'll require a re-install.

penguin wrote:2) ALL programs except a few (like Kopete) open up to the left-hand corner of the screen. They cannot be moved, resized, closed etc. They can be closed with right-hand mouse button (in some cases) or by going to the program's 'File' on the toolbar.

Are the window decorations missing? That is, do the windows have a title bar, close/maximize/minimize buttons, etc? Also, are you using compiz or kwin? I have seen this problem before when compiz, or a window decorator under compiz, crashed. Also make sure you have desktop effects turned off if you are using kwin.

I didn't have desktop effects enabled so no compiz or kwin Compositing desktop effects? I think I had the default so what is that?

I just want to apologize for the tone of my complaints. I understand it's in testing and beta but I want readers and developers to know that I wanted to help and if my troubleshooting or observations could be helpful in any way, that would be my preference.

I should have re-read my complaints and critiques and just stated I had problems, period.

I do like the potential look and feel of the newer desktop. I hope the updates/upgrades turn out to be 'polished' eventually when released as I would like to retry it when it's at that time and state.

For now, I think I will re-install the distro I tried it on (Kubuntu 8.10) and give it another go. If the experience is not very good, then I will just wait for a while.

Thanks for replying and offering advice and ideas of what to try!