suggestion 1

use the konqueror in dolphin mode only or in browser mode only. it will behave and look exactly like the app you want. this can be made without bloating the application interface

suggestion 2

a wrapper app can be made to wrap a single konqueror profile. it wont be capable of working with other profiles. call this app dolphin and use it. in addition to this app there is konqueror itself with all the capabilities which can use the same profile

There is bloat, since Konqueror has a lot of features some don't need. Yes, there are people who just wants a file manager, and for that purpose Dolphin is fine.

In the early Firefox versions, you could set up Mozilla to work and behave pretty much the same. Yet Firefox lived on and is now the second most popular web browser.

bloat in

UI sense ?

performance / system resources sence ?

Since my last post I've been forcing myself to use KDE 4.2.2 and though I have reached a point where I can tolerate it I still find many aspects disappointing.
My current KDE 4.2.2 desktop

I'll start with:

1) Konqueror - Navigation panel lacks some functions found in the version from KDE 3.5.x. Foremost are the absence of file operations like copy and paste.

2) Kaffeine - I used Kaffeine in KDE 3.5 as my primary media app and I'm disappointed there isn't a KDE4 version.

3) Quicklaunch widget - When compared to the version from 3.5.10, the version that is a part of 4.2.2 is just plain sad. The lack of control over icon size and inability to add apps via the context menu make it much less useful than it could be.

4) Sys tray icon for PowerDevil. It would be nice to switch between power saving modes directly instead of launching system settings or kcontrol4 and navigating to the PowerDevil controls.

tekwyzrd wrote:4) Sys tray icon for PowerDevil. It would be nice to switch between power saving modes directly instead of launching system settings or kcontrol4 and navigating to the PowerDevil controls.

You can already do that: click on the battery icon and choose the performance profile.

tekwyzrd wrote:3) Quicklaunch widget - When compared to the version from 3.5.10, the version that is a part of 4.2.2 is just plain sad. The lack of control over icon size and inability to add apps via the context menu make it much less useful than it could be.

I agree in the fact that the actual scheme (first create an app launcher in a folder, then add that desktop file to the quick launch) is sub-optimal but... how often do you need to do that? I last edited my quick launch almost two month ago...

I usually just drag applications from the applications menu to Quicklaunch, so I'm not missing much in that regard.
In KDE 4.3 one will be able to set the icon size for icons in the QuickLaunch applet. In 4.3 the icons also have tooltips like normal icons.

I am using KDE 4.2.2 on linux install originally set up for KDE 3.5.x. Since my previous post I encountered additional nagging problems. First is the lack of superuser tools in KDE 4.2.2. There doesn't seem to be any way to use konqueror as su (when attempting via sudo konqueror crashes) and there is no admin mode in system settings or kcontrol4 making admin functions impossible. Another annoyance is the lack of context menus in the clasic style menu. Starting an app with both right and left clicks is a waste of potential.

KDE applications should be run as root through applications such as kdesu(do) or gksu. It's a bit dangerous to run them with sudo, since they can change the properties of files in your home directory to being owned by root, which can cause a lot of problems. Regardless, it shouldn't crash. (It doesn't here with Kubuntu) It could be a distro issue.

For System Settings modules that require root privileges, most distributions patch System Settings to launch these modules in their own root kcmshell when accessed. You could consider asking you distro to include a similar patch.

I've created a .desktop file for kdesu konqueror. What info do I need to add to make it start using the file manager view mode?

tekwyzrd wrote:I've created a .desktop file for kdesu konqueror. What info do I need to add to make it start using the file manager view mode?

konqueror --profile filemanagement

AleX777 wrote:

tekwyzrd wrote:I've created a .desktop file for kdesu konqueror. What info do I need to add to make it start using the file manager view mode?

konqueror --profile filemanagement

sudo konqueror --profile filemanagement works
kdesu dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u works
kdesu konqueror --profile filemanagement doesn't

in konsole:

$ kdesu konqueror --profile filemanagement
kdesu: Unknown option 'profile'.

kdesu konqueror works but then I have to switch to file manager view profile. I guess I can make due with kdesu dolphin or sudo konqueror but I'd prefer using the recommended kdesu for konqueror as superuser.

kdesu kcontrol4 works and gives me access to login manager settings

Try this command instead:

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kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement

bcooksley wrote:Try this command instead:

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kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement

$ kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement
kdesu: Unknown option 'profile'.

tekwyzrd wrote:

bcooksley wrote:Try this command instead:

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kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement

$ kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement
kdesu: Unknown option 'profile'.

OK, I got it to work.

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kdesu -c "konqueror --profile filemanagement"