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KDE 4.3 Beta personal first impressions

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I installed the new 64 bits packages from openSUSE and this are my first impressions:

1) KDE 4.3 is more mature than 4.2 and, for me, works better than kde 4.2.3 so upgrading was a good choice.
2) Plasma has very interesting things, like new folder view navigation features or activities and seems to be a little bit more stable. Unfortunately if you play with new features plasma crash as usual.
3) Very happy good news, Konqueror cookies works again :) but can resist only over 30' in my google reader account before crash :(. I'm using Arora as my default browser and I have over a dozen of crash on several months. I was a Konqueror fan but I need a stable browser Google compatible and Konqueror isn't.
4) Encoding conversion problems are not solved but this is a Qt problem more than a KDE problem.
5) Nepomuk and strigi acuracy and query system are not improved. It's a pity, a fantastic tool failing for a bad interface.
6) The notification system improvements are great and, for the moment, without lock dialogs. I like so much :).
7) The new device actions are available but don't works and you must do manually changes. Finally I can remove anoing Digikam option :D. On the other side I think is complex and nobody without advanced skills could be use it.
8.) Crash notification system are improved but I'm not sure if this is good or not ;).

At last, I have a lot of problems with Phonon since I change my hardware so I took the blame to audio drivers and not to KDE. Notable exception is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189898 bug.

I think that 4.2 users must upgrade to 4.3 beta because is as stable as 4.2.3 and has improvements and new interesting features.

KDE 4.3 seems to be a strong step in a mature KDE 4 so thank so much to all :thumbs_up:.


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One thing that I hate is that when you have folder view as your desktop, your right click menu get's too crowded. Too many options there.


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10) I wanted to switch KOrganizer/KAdressbook to Akonadi but this hangs my system. (Had to kill all related processes)


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@Ignacio Serantes: How doesn't the Device Actions KCM work? I was sure it worked last time I checked. Unfortunately due to the nature of the underlying infrastructure it is bound to be complex.


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@bcooksley: Well I know that underlying infrastructure is complex but an automovil engine is complex but you don't need to now it to drive a car.

I don't think that the system was bad. I play a little with it and seems powerfull but people without strong skills can't understands thinks like "OpticalDisc.availableContent must equal 'Data|VideoDvd'".

In my opinion Device Notifier must be

- Do something
- Do something
Nothing
New action

An with "New action" you could select a new program and asing a name and with "-" you can delete actions. Not so powerfull but very simple.

A Wizard could be another solution :).


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I see now. Unfortunately due to the string and feature freezes it will not be possible to change it for KDE 4.3. However I should be able to improve it for KDE 4.4. Unfortunately due to the flexibility present in the system, a wizard approach is not possible.


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Hello KONQUEROR FILTER BAR!

Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:58 pm
screenshot: BACK IN BLACK!

At last! And now that I can use Konqueror the way I always have in the past, I can start to take stock of the work that has been done in my absense. Dolphin, which I once viewed with suspicion, has freed Konqueror the file manager to go all power-user all the time. ME LIKE!:shade:


Now I'm discovering some of the background images options, like the blue marble and the weather background. Nice. Bugs? Very few so far.

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KDE 4.3 Beta 2 seems to perform really well with compositing now. Using the latest nvidia drivers (185.18.14), windows respond, maximize and minimize quickly and smoothly. If Beta 2 is this good, the final should be quite nice. :)

Just out of curiosity, anyone know if there are plans for konqueror to support the new HTML 5 video tag and Ogg Theora?

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I'm trying out beta 2 and I have issues with STask and plasmoids location in the panel.


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PoL666 wrote:I'm trying out beta 2 and I have issues with STask and plasmoids location in the panel.

You are not the only one.
STasks is no longer able to occupy all central space. It was already signaled in kde-look page.
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Howl wrote:STasks is no longer able to occupy all central space. It was already signaled in kde-look page.


But there are also two patches on that page too fix it.

First one and only required one is on (currently) page 27, by ZaWertun
Code: Select all
--- stasks_applet.cpp 2009-03-22 03:18:21.000000000 +0300
+++ stasks-0.5.1/applet/stasks_applet.cpp 2009-05-23 18:55:50.000000000 +0400
@@ -153,6 +153,8 @@
{
m_layout->setOrientation((formFactor() == Plasma::Vertical)?Qt::Vertical:Qt::Horizontal);
}
+
+ setSizePolicy(QSizePolicy(QSizePolicy::Expanding, QSizePolicy::Expanding));
}
void STasksApplet::updateSize()
{


Secondly, on page 28. Only to make the tooltips to look better, by peacheskde so can be skipped although it looks better with it.

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--- ../stasks-0.5.1/applet/stasks_tooltip.cpp 2009-03-21 15:37:38.000000000 -0600
+++ applet/stasks_tooltip.cpp 2009-05-31 16:56:45.000000000 -0600
@@ -75,6 +75,7 @@ class CloseIcon : public QLabel

STasksToolTip::STasksToolTip(int size, QWidget *parent) : QWidget(parent)
{
+ setAttribute(Qt::WA_TranslucentBackground);
setWindowFlags(Qt::ToolTip);

m_size = size;


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How can I add these patchs :S?


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Howl wrote:
PoL666 wrote:I'm trying out beta 2 and I have issues with STask and plasmoids location in the panel.

You are not the only one.
STasks is no longer able to occupy all central space. It was already signaled in kde-look page.


There are plasmoid issues for sure, but they'll be fixed, and since most plasmoids are based on preexisting applications and information from the web, they're easy to work around for now.

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PoL666 wrote:How can I add these patchs :S?


Well, I've packed up a patched version that you can get here:

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/803675/st ... 5.1.tar.gz

If you've installed a binary-package before, uninstall it.

open a shell.

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cd _wherever_file_was_downloaded_to
tar -xvf stasks-0.5.1.tar.gz
cd stasks-0.5.1
mkdir build
cd build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release ../
make
sudo make install
kbuildsycocoa4 --noincremental


Assuming everything went okay, you should be able to add it to your panel. If you've never built anything from source before, you need to install some -dev packages first. In ubuntu, you need build-essentials at the very least. I don't have an ubuntu-install handy so I can't tell for sure what they're named but most likely something along these lines:

1. kdebase4-dev
2. kdebase4-workspace-dev
3. libqt4-dev

Someone using ubuntu will have to fill you in on the packages needed if you can't work it out from the error messages.

And yes, it is a bit daunting at first but once all the packages are in place it's pretty easy. The above procedure works for every plasmoid out there.


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Thanks so much but I had to downgrade to KDE 4.2 again, KDE4.3 it's no ready for me.
Thanks anyway.


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