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Things that I really missing on KDE 4.x

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@Moult: +1 for the resizong on plasma. it's annoying trying to resize the folderview.

I like the approach of the Lancelot menu for resizing.


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I /really/ miss KDE 3's ability to middle click on the desktop and see a list of every window, grouped by which Desktop they are on.
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sebas wrote:
blueget wrote:I *REALLY* miss the wonderful kdeprint from KDE 3.5.

Who doesn't :-)
There's a new printing manager in KDE's trunk which will be released with KDE 4.2.

It's also very annoying that I only can create keyboard shortcuts for predefined actions of programs.


Which actions exactly are you missing? You can file that as WISHLIST item on bugs.kde.org. Just stating "I want more keyboard shortcut actions" won't get you any further, we need to know what you're missing -- then it's relatively easy to add some shortcut.


In KDE 3, I could define custom actions (for instance executing a command, starting an application or even making a custom DCOP call) via a (somewhat cluttered and complicated) GUI, and define shortcuts for them.

In KDE 4 (at least with KDE 4.1.2 on Mandriva 2009.0), I can't create custom actions, it's only possible to bind keys to predefined actions.


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I still mis the icon behavior on the desktop (drag and drop, and right click) now you can do that when you have the folderview on the desktop but I want the normal behavior AND folderview. So you can download things and add them on the desktop edit/open/move/delete etc. Now you have to open Dolpin or have run the folderview widget. My ideal scenario is a normal desktop with icons (that not behave as widgets) and a folderview to see /home /storage disk.

And, a normal save window inside Firefox, Thunderbird and Gimp. The integration is not that nice because it depends op GTK. There is the possibility to use GTK-Qt but it still use a GTK theme and not oxygen, Firefox looks nice now because i use a oxygen theme but it is still gtk, maybe the GTK-qt engine can be develop more so that it use just QT and Qt save dialogs boxes. or better make Firefox/Thunderbird and Gimp use Qt4 ;).

Ps. I know that there are people that are develop a Qt Firefox version but after reading something about it i never hear of it again :(

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dummyxl wrote:I still mis the icon behavior on the desktop (drag and drop, and right click) now you can do that when you have the folderview on the desktop but I want the normal behavior AND folderview. So you can download things and add them on the desktop edit/open/move/delete etc. Now you have to open Dolpin or have run the folderview widget. My ideal scenario is a normal desktop with icons (that not behave as widgets) and a folderview to see /home /storage disk.


This feature is coming in KDE 4.2. You'll be able to set your Folderview as your desktop, and then run additional folderviews as you can do now.

Technically, this is already possible, but there is no GUI for it, and you'll lose your desktop background.


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Blizzz wrote:Isn't this uncomfortable? I set the shortcut to Alt+Space as it was with Katapult in KDE 3 times. No need to stretch the hand :)


Nah, I got big hands. Used to be a keyboard player. Anyway, once a keyboard shortcut gets ingrained, it's hard to change it.

I use alt-f2 all the time, too, I almost never use a menu unless I've completely forgotten how to start something. It's a lot less mental effort to type "firefox" than to hunt it down on a menu.


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Moult wrote:I personally don't really like/use kickoff that much, I think it really can be improved in terms of UI. Alt-F2 is what I use all the time now.


Have you tried Lancelot? -> http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/main
It's really nice.


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dummyxl wrote:And, a normal save window inside Firefox, Thunderbird and Gimp. The integration is not that nice because it depends op GTK. There is the possibility to use GTK-Qt but it still use a GTK theme and not oxygen, Firefox looks nice now because i use a oxygen theme but it is still gtk, maybe the GTK-qt engine can be develop more so that it use just QT and Qt save dialogs boxes. or better make Firefox/Thunderbird and Gimp use Qt4 ;).

Ps. I know that there are people that are develop a Qt Firefox version but after reading something about it i never hear of it again :(
I'm still just a KD3.5 user, I dropped in to see what other people find "missing in KDE4" before I do the big upgrade. (Mostly, I like my too-glitzy compiz/fusion desktop better than than the look+feel of KDE4 right now). But getting to what I want to say about THIS issue ---

I can use KDE's file chooser, complete with bookmarks and pattern macthing and everything, by "wrapping" all those GTK-based apps within kgtk2-wrapper, thus: /usr/bin/kgtk2-wrapper firefox

It's SUPPOSED to work with qt4, with lots of people are having trouble getting it built. There's a dependency on "kdialogd4", and you might have to hack kdialogd.cpp to resolve a #-of-parameters mismatch. I don't know how much you want to dig into it, but here's the url: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+(Use+KDE+Dialogs+in+Gtk+Apps)?content=36077
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Everyone knows, you use gtkfilechooser() very much, you grow warts. KDE, no warts. ;-)


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rickst29 wrote:I can use KDE's file chooser, complete with bookmarks and pattern macthing and everything, by "wrapping" all those GTK-based apps within kgtk2-wrapper, thus: /usr/bin/kgtk2-wrapper firefox

It's SUPPOSED to work with qt4, with lots of people are having trouble getting it built. There's a dependency on "kdialogd4", and you might have to hack kdialogd.cpp to resolve a #-of-parameters mismatch. I don't know how much you want to dig into it, but here's the url: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+(Use+KDE+Dialogs+in+Gtk+Apps)?content=36077



How I would love to get that thing to compile for me using KDE4...I used it all the time using KDE 3.x to get rid of those, eh let's be polite and say less-than-userfriendly but somewhat better than "type the filename including the complete path in this box" dialogues the gtk-folks has "blessed" us with. Okay, so that was not polite so why not call it the gtk-fileselector for what it is: an utter piece of ****. Anyway, no matter what it is: I would love to get rid of it once and for all.

Anyway, if anyone has any hints on how to get it to compile properly using KDE 4.1.2, Qt 4.4.3, and OpenSuse 11.0 I would love to hear it!


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Hello,

what I really, really miss is the feature to move the tabs for each window in that window-list-plasmoid-thingy. I don't know if that feature was present in KDE 3.x(I never really used it, moved from Gnome to KDE 4.1), but that feature was REALLY useful, I miss it a LOT.
Would be interesting if that feature is already in the KDE 4.2 SVN oder something.
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Korosu_Itai wrote:What I miss is having the possibility of randomize the wallpaper, I want KDE to check recursively my wallpaper folder and choose one randomly every 30 minutes.
KDE 4 did that, but the feature seems lost since KDE 4.1 :(


i implemented both of these features tonight. viva la 4.2!


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eiffel56 wrote:Hello,

what I really, really miss is the feature to move the tabs for each window in that window-list-plasmoid-thingy. I don't know if that feature was present in KDE 3.x(I never really used it, moved from Gnome to KDE 4.1), but that feature was REALLY useful, I miss it a LOT.
Would be interesting if that feature is already in the KDE 4.2 SVN oder something.


if you mean the taskbar, then yes, this is possible in 4.2.


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PLEASE let us hide the top-right cashew!!!


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I miss the desktop :(. Of all the folders. I know there is a folders view plasmoid but its still not the same. Its annoying how it is. Too slow to open up the folders. I wish it went back to way it was. That is the only thing I hate about KDE4.


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stoked wrote:PLEASE let us hide the top-right cashew!!!


try http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.ph ... n=85047699, thats where the community steps in


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