When will it have all the features of the "old" one?

4.3? 4.4?

Never.

Some features get dropped, others are completely new.
As KDE is a such big community there will be probably always some applications that never got ported to KDE4...

So your question should be like this:
"When will all features, that I need, be in KDE4?"
And that is, of course, hard to answer...

And, by the way: KDE 3 took 6 years since the first release to gain its maturity of today - KDE4 came out only some months ago...

michael4910 wrote:And, by the way: KDE 3 took 6 years since the first release to gain its maturity of today - KDE4 came out only some months ago...

... and will need a lifetime to get the stability and usability of the KDE 3.5...

michael4910 wrote:And, by the way: KDE 3 took 6 years since the first release to gain its maturity of today - KDE4 came out only some months ago...

KDE 4.0.0 came out one year ago next Sunday. The release of 4.2 should have at least the same stability that KDE 2 and KDE 3 had on their first birthdays.

I'm using KDE 4.2beta and I'm very happy with it. I do not miss any feature from 3.x releases

KDE 4.1 is as stable as 3.5.10 on my machine, except for a powerdevil bug. KDE4.2 beta, except for the occasional beta glitches, is solid as a rock. BTW: KDE4 definitely is faster than 3.5

Sorry, all the whining about features: which features exactly? Have you filed them as a bug?

torkiano wrote:I'm using KDE 4.2beta and I'm very happy with it. I do not miss any feature from 3.x releases

Same here.

neversfelde wrote:

torkiano wrote:I'm using KDE 4.2beta and I'm very happy with it. I do not miss any feature from 3.x releases

Same here.

Same here.


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michael4910 wrote:And, by the way: KDE 3 took 6 years since the first release to gain its maturity of today - KDE4 came out only some months ago...

But the big difference is that when KDE3 was unleashed, it had everything I'd been using in KDE2 (though obviously I can't speak for other users) and built upon that. It was released as a working suite of programs, not as a beta; its betas were properly labelled as such and nobody pretended they were ready for production use.

After something like a year, KDE4 is still nowhere near as configurable as KDE3 was on release day, so I'm having to do all sorts of work-rounds to get my desktop doing something like what I want it to do.

It's only the fact that other desktops are even less flexible (like Gnome) or just look cheap, nasty and 20th-century (all the lighter-weight ones I've played with) that's kept me on KDE.

KDE 4 was completely new written.
You have to compare it with KDE 1 and that competition will KDE 4 win.

KDE 4 is stable and is labelled as that. No, it hasn't all features and is still not as configurable as KDE 3 but it's stable.

Everywhere you look, the same stupid discussion (although technie doesn't want it to be). KDE 4 needs still the time to compete with KDE 3 (I think), but if you look at the potential, you will see, that KDE 4 will be much better. KDE 4 isn't KDE 3+1, it's something completely different. And the KDE Team is doing a really good job, that I just love them for that (really)!

So, please be patient!

Regards,
TeaAge

TeaAge wrote:KDE 4 was completely new written.

Actually it wasn't. Nearly all of the libraries and apps were ported from Qt3 to Qt4. New features and refactoring, but they're essentially the same. The big exception is the desktop/plasma.

TeaAge wrote:
Everywhere you look, the same stupid discussion (although technie doesn't want it to be). KDE 4 needs still the time to compete with KDE 3 (I think), but if you look at the potential, you will see, that KDE 4 will be much better. KDE 4 isn't KDE 3+1, it's something completely different. And the KDE Team is doing a really good job, that I just love them for that (really)!

So, please be patient!

Well, there's nothing wrong with asking the question, but the important thing to remember is that all of the features of KDE 3.5 can currently be found in (say it with me now) KDE 3.5, which is still the default for many distros, and is still available for just about every distro that I know of except for Kubuntu 8.10, Insipid Ibex. (Sorry, I guess I still harbor a little grudge.)


After several months of storming the castle with my torch and my pitchfork. I'm actually pretty gung-ho on KDE4 these days , but I'm thinking of taking a step backward to KDE3, After a year of this discussion, I'm finding that following the KDE4 rollout too closely is simply emotionally exhausting. Last night I installed the KDE 4.2, and it was just amazing, really impressive... but there was one widget missing. It was my favorite widget, Since I've only been using KDE4 for a few weeks, I wasn't just a kid who lost his toy, I had lost my new toy, and i was feeling heartbroken about it for the rest of the evening. Even though, on a purely visceral level, KDE 4.2 is the sexiest thing I've ver seen on my computer, and that includes porn.

The thing is, when I come here all **** off, and I complain about problems with Konqueror, the devs really do listen, and I see the changes later on. I'm not just spinning my wheels in here. So I really have nothing to complain about even though complaining in here has been fairly rewarding for me.

The KNewsTicker plasmoid was removed because ( Quoting Aaron Seigo )

The widget was discontinued by its author; it is replaced by the RSS Now and News plasmoids in 4.2

blackbelt_jones wrote:Even though, on a purely visceral level, KDE 4.2 is the sexiest thing I've ver seen on my computer, and that includes porn.

This one made my day, really.

But soo true for me, too.

blackbelt_jones wrote:Even though, on a purely visceral level, KDE 4.2 is the sexiest thing I've ver seen on my computer, and that includes porn.

Can I use it as signature - including your name of course - on forums? :shade: