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Drop Dolphin and Re-Vive Konqueror! Now!

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richter696
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Dolphin is very nice... I like this. Have preview of videos include ^^...
My only problem is the icon theme i don´t make change it... Only use Default theme...¬¬... Big problem =D... One day i can did it...


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Dolphin a great file manager. Don't even think about getting rid of it, but do keep working on it. There are some good ideas in this discussion.


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Why do I use KDE? - Konqueror
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Oky, so it's been awhile since my last post on this topic. I've used KDE 4.4.2 for a while now, and the whole thing seems like half-completed beta software. Granted, I and no programmer, and thoroughly respect the job of those who do program. It's a dirty job for ingrates like myself.

That said, the most glaring omissions from konqueror for me, and that have no analogue in dolphin are the "Copy to," and "Move to" options in the right-click pop-up menu. Those were a staple for me. I personally do not care if these are ever expressed in dolphin as I am not inclined to ever use it. There is also no "go up one level," or "back" options in the right-click pop-up menu. Nor are these in dolphin. Although they still do exist as keyboard commands in both. These are just the basics, of course, that do not include a discussion of specific file-type handling, such as images, or audio.

It just seems like we as users and supporters are being forced to use applications that I don't recall asking to have. Konqueror as it was was the best file manager I've used since X-Tree for DOS years ago. However, as I remember, konqueror never had a hex editor built in to it. No great loss there, really. We do have khexedit okteta, after all.
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> "whole thing seems like half-completed beta
> software" and "and thoroughly respect the job..."

dude...

> are the "Copy to," and "Move to" options in the right-click pop-up me

Configure Dolphin -> General -> Context Menu

It is worth checking before you start /crying "wolf"/


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ivan wrote:>
Configure Dolphin -> General -> Context Menu

It is worth checking before you start /crying "wolf"/


You're absolutely right.

Still, I do not think I was "crying wolf." Crying wolf to me implies statements made with knowledge of contradicting truth. Statements made out of ignorant frustration such as mine are just statements made out of ignorant frustration. I've just never had to dig that deeply in to the setup for konqueror to have those context menu items available. I don't mind doing the extra work to make them available. I've just never had to, so it escaped me that those might be configuration options, instead of thinking they'd been removed entirely.

Aw well, it's not often said that I have an astute command of the obvious.

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Well, I suggest leaving the 'ignorant frustration' as you nicely put it behind when posting here.

We are trying to be a nice and polite community unlike most other internet-based ones and any kind of frustration is not beneficial to the cause.

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0x29a wrote:I've just never had to dig that deeply in to the setup for konqueror to have those context menu items available. I don't mind doing the extra work to make them available. I've just never had to, so it escaped me that those might be configuration options, instead of thinking they'd been removed entirely.


The main problem isn't that you didn't bother to check the configuration options (although at least for me that would be the first place I would look).

The more fundamental problem is that you asserted that something doesn't exist rather than asking whether it exists. You didn't say "I really liked the feature from konqueror, is there any way to get it back in dolphin?" That would have been a better and more constructive approach. Instead you attacked dolphin and dolphin developers for not having a feature it has had since the very beginning.


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I have a question: as I understand it, the only real functionality advantage that Dolphin offers is a more advanced search feature (and since anyone with a brain organizes his/her files in a logical, intuitive, manner, how much use is that really going to get?). Sooo... why didn't they just stick this new search functionality into Konq? I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why a new program was necessary.


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Dolphin is easier to use, easier to learn, and has a cleaner and more focused interface. It isn't about what features it has, it is about having an interface designed to be excellent at one thing (file management) as opposed to an interface that has to be able to do anything.


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TheBlackCat wrote:Dolphin is easier to use, easier to learn, and has a cleaner and more focused interface. It isn't about what features it has, it is about having an interface designed to be excellent at one thing (file management) as opposed to an interface that has to be able to do anything.

I like that principle. Oftentimes an application (or even an API) that tries to do multiple things equally well ends up not being able to handle any of them well.

I've been using Dolphin since Kubuntu 8.04. To me, it's a nice and easy-to-use file manager. I must say I don't miss Konqueror.


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richter696 wrote:Dolphin is very nice... I like this. Have preview of videos include ^^...


Previews of videos has been in Konqueror for ages, already in KDE3:

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TheBlackCat wrote:Dolphin is easier to use, easier to learn, and has a cleaner and more focused interface. It isn't about what features it has, it is about having an interface designed to be excellent at one thing (file management) as opposed to an interface that has to be able to do anything.

If so, why it lacks the basic file management functions (i.e. spatial view)? If you want to make a tool specialized for file management, why do you remove the basic file management functions?

No. Dolphin is not specialized for file management. It is specialized for only one paradigm of file management, favored by the devs.
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Annix, as we keep explaining not everyone thinks that spatial file management is as important as you do. Dolphin supports several different paradigms of file management, but it lacks support for one particularly inefficient and outdated paradigm.


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