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Why do you think kde is not using Elektra( a cool config)?

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frog-o
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I don't understand this Elektra from http://www.libelektra.org/Main_Page seem to be a very cool project but i can't find hardly any program that mentions using or even talking about it on there mailing list tryed seaching them with mail-archive Nabble, Google-groups, Gmane(it was down how odd) and other. I was only able to find mentioned an old X and sbin/init(with patch) and samba using it. From all my search I could not find many bad commits about it except one person complaining programs should not need a config and should be smart enough to configure everything it self ;well this sound great, IMHO it dose not make much sense every body had different preferences and it is impossible to automatically determine all them and I feel they should be place in a desktop independent config.

Can anyone shed some light why kde programs are not use this thing?
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Is it still in active development? The last news item is from 2008.
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I cannot remember Windows Registry beeing an especially bright idea.
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TheBlackCat
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This doesn't seem like a good approach to configuration at all. I think systemsettings is a much better approach.


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TheBlackCat said

"This doesn't seem like a good approach to configuration at all. I think systemsettings is a much better approach."

and

samhain said

"I cannot remember Windows Registry beeing an especially bright idea."

I guess people did not use because they did not like the idea but what wrong with it. Can it be fix?

What is systemsettings approach?

I think people in general people would like to have a cross desktop approach or am i wrong there to?
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There a lot of people who feel the Resgistry was not that good an idea - the following is quoted from the Wikipedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Re ... zproblems0

"However, the centralized Registry introduces some problems:

The registry duplicates much of the functionality of the file system.

Centralizing configurations makes it difficult to back up and recover individual applications.

Because the Registry structure is contained in binary files, damage to the registry itself is difficult or impossible to repair. Because information required for loading device drivers is stored in the registry[25], a damaged registry may prevent a Windows system from booting successfully. While damaged configuration files can have the same result to other operating systems, the damage can be more easily repaired by booting to another operating system, and using a text editor.

Installers and uninstallers become complex, much more than just copying files into a folder.

Applications that make use of the registry to store and retrieve their settings are unsuitable for use on portable devices used to carry applications from one system to another.

Since an application's configuration is centralized away from the application itself, it is often not possible to copy installed applications that use the Registry to another computer. This means that software usually has to be reinstalled from original media on a computer upgrade or rebuild, rather than just copying the user and software folder to the new computer.

The Windows Registry is said to be a single point of failure."


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frog-o
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I suffer from to much data problem(I can't remember what i read when the go into a lot of detail) I read the wiki entry several times i did not see that. Thank for pointing it out so the main problems are

1.) it store it's config in a binary file
2.) There not a good way to backup date
3.) it can not sort out per application config make install and portability a problem
4.) It store files in a binary Format

I'm i missing anything?
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If it gets corrupted the whole system can become unusable
In Windows it's a good place for malware to hide
Apps can't be moved between machines


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