I use Skulpture http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Sk ... tent=59031
It is simple and clean. I think we could just change the less volted ones with new ones, the number of decorations stays the same.

I use QtCurve.

Redarding the issue of removing old/outdated decorations, I actually agree. I would keep just oxygen and plastik as a fallback.

Reasons are that these outdated decorations may contribute to give a wrong first impression to new users (something like "kde lives still in the 90's" or "Modern? What the hell?" ).

The best possible world for me would be the one where outdated decorations are shipped in kdeartwork (I think I'm right in assuming that users who actually use them are advanced users, very much capable of installing them anyway) and "new" decorations like QtCurve, Bespin and DeKorator are included as pre-installed options.

I agree to move most of decorations to KDE artwork exept Oxygen because:
1. Oxygen is currently the most comonly used decoration.
2. It is continoiusly improveing.
3. It the best fits KDE SC.
4. Too much choices might bring headache to user.

Aurora Decoration Theme Engine and using Tragedy as my Theme.

I use Oxygen because it looks to me as the best choice among those available. But I don't like it too much. What I really liked, and I had it until the arrival of KDE4, was the KDE1 windeco. Is there a possibility of restoring it? Even if it was in kdeartwork-extragear-ultraoptional or something like that, I'd very much appreciate it...

sombragris wrote:KDE1 windeco. Is there a possibility of restoring it? Even if it was in kdeartwork-extragear-ultraoptional or something like that, I'd very much appreciate it...

It is in KDE Artwork, but the code was last time touched nearly 5 years ago. I don't think it works anymore.
IMO the best way is to redo classic themes for the Aurorae theming engine.

Aurorae

Yes, please get rid of Redmond and KDE II from being in my list of people's decorations!

It takes someone to make a concious effort to remove any old cruft, and no-one seems to like doing so. Good work.

I currently use Oxygen, since I'm partial to window tabbing, but plan on switching over to Aurorae / some pretty translucent theme, once it supports it.

My multi-button mouse. (It's a $20 el-cheapo, but the owner of any such mouse should be able to appreciate this). KDE can't work with "extra" mouse buttons, because underlying QT 4.x software doesn't provide an interface. You can define the mouse buttons into key sequences, and then define the keys in KDE. But by loading loading Compiz on top of KDE 4.4.x, I get to use the buttons as actual mouse buttons -- not emulations of keyboard actions. So I've defined a bunch of window management functions for my "extra" mouse buttons:

button 9, for example, performs 'Window Close'. On my mouse, this is a thumb button at the bottom-middle of the left side. And wow, I never realized how inconvenient it is to drag my mouse onto the Window decoration 'x' ... or into the Application menu ... or down, into the Application link on the menu bar ... Until I did this. Closing any Window is now just "whack the button" with the mouse cursor located anywhere in the panel.

I have button 8 set to "spin the cube", also a much easier move than dragging the mouse all the way to the edge (the only mouse-based option which Plasma can offer).
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And yeah, my decorations are more pretty than Oxygen too. But Oxygen provides a full set of widgets, while Emerald themes only do Window Frames and frame management.

KAMiKAZOW wrote:

sombragris wrote:KDE1 windeco. Is there a possibility of restoring it? Even if it was in kdeartwork-extragear-ultraoptional or something like that, I'd very much appreciate it...

It is in KDE Artwork, but the code was last time touched nearly 5 years ago. I don't think it works anymore.
IMO the best way is to redo classic themes for the Aurorae theming engine.

Hope it gets restored someday... I really miss it a lot.

rickst29 wrote:I get to use the buttons as actual mouse buttons -- not emulations of keyboard actions. So I've defined a bunch of window management functions for my "extra" mouse buttons:

There's no need to switch away from kwin just for that. Sure, it needs to be emulations of keyboard actions but apart from the fact that it can be a pain to set up (how easy is it in Compiz? No idea) I fail to see why that makes a difference. Please, if there is something I'm overlooking here as why emulation is a bad idea could you enlighten me?

Mine has two thumb-buttons on the side which are used to switch desktop, and one button just below the scroll-wheel, which is used to invoke the present windows effect.

Kryten2X4B wrote:

rickst29 wrote:There's no need to switch away from kwin just for that. Sure, it needs to be emulations of keyboard actions but apart from the fact that it can be a pain to set up (how easy is it in Compiz? No idea) I fail to see why that makes a difference. Please, if there is something I'm overlooking here as why emulation is a bad idea could you enlighten me?

"Pain to setup" is 99% of the issue, since I've been using Compiz this way for quite a while. (From back in my KDE 3.5 days.) In every place where Compiz Settings offers a allows you to set a keyboard combination to perform a function, there's also a mouse icon (to choose a mouse action for executing the same function). Clicking on that icon shows a drop-down list of ALL the buttons your mouse makes available. And, per my post, they provide a few utilities utilities (e.g., "close window") which KDE doesn't show.

I'm sure you could do an X-Window "close" command via a keystroke combination, but the Desktop settings GUI doesn't have it.

The Compiz settings GUI also lets you define arbitrary shell commands to be executed by mouse, keystroke combinations, and/or edge events. Compiz settings are hard to use, people have been asking "why can't I spin my cube?" for years. (Usually, they're confused between virtual desktops and workspaces). But it does have a lot more options, and my Window frames are prettier than the alternatives I can choose from at look.kde.org.
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I'm not interested in wobbling, explosions, or water/fire. It sounds like you and I focus on the same things: Ultra-easy Display and re-selection of Windows within a virtual deskstop when you dont know what's there, or you want a different one on top (both have this- I use my upper thumb button to invoke the Window switcher); and spinning the cube (I use a middle mouse "tilt" button to invoke that). But I'll stick by my initial post: I've got a Window Close command on the mouse, and it's REALLY nice to close windows in this way.

I use oxygen but I like none, Oxygen is the least ugly, the other ones look like they are from 1990. Finding nice window decoration is harder on KDE than is is for metacity or compiz

For window decoration I use Oxygen from 4.4 but I used QtCurve before that and still like it.

But for Style I still like and also use QtCurve.