Sanette wrote:

Fri13 wrote:I have seen distributions (like Ubuntu) what grawl on quad core computers. Lags on newest laptops.... But I do not blame GNOME community or KDE from it but the distribution when software runs fine when just switching distribution.

it is a bit easy to blame the distribution. I'm a simple user and for me KDE is *nothing* without a distribution.

If what you say is true, it means that KDE should give precise instructions to distributors to make it run smoothly.

If there is a fault somewhere, it is certainly shared.

Or the other way around, keep distributions from tweaking KDE to their own good-findings.

toad wrote:I think I once had a problem with KDE 4.x - and it was due to too little RAM (only had 2GB in my laptop).

this comment frigthens me. I have two laptops with 2GB of RAM each, and I
consider them very good. And I'm not going to change soon.

I really hope I will still be able to use KDE on them in the (dark or bright) future.

Sanette wrote:

toad wrote:I think I once had a problem with KDE 4.x - and it was due to too little RAM (only had 2GB in my laptop).

this comment frigthens me. I have two laptops with 2GB of RAM each, and I
consider them very good. And I'm not going to change soon.

I really hope I will still be able to use KDE on them in the (dark or bright) future.

I'm writing this from a 4 years old laptop with 2 GiB of ram. Never had a single problem with KDE and as a matter of fact 4.6.x is a lot faster here than 4.3 ever was. I need to try 4.7, though. Not sure when I'll go for openSUSE 12.1...

valoriez wrote:I've been reading this thread for weeks, and it seems to be wandering very far from usefulness.

True !
Sorry guys and girls but I am not sure that the whole world is fascinated by how much Ram you have on your computer...

valoriez wrote: So shall we put our heads together and work out better ways to do that?

To me definitely yes !
In my point of view, the major part of the Community is focused on delivering feature
It is good, burt it can't come alone, without any stability and quality insurrance.
At university, I remmember once when a Professor told us about the history of engineering. During WW2 and after, engineering (should it be cars or plane or anything) was mostly intuitve. That is to stay: no marketing, no quality insurrance, nothing, just the engineer that think about something, take is pencil and design it.
But then it appeared that this way of engineering fullfill only 60% of the users needs.

During the cold war and especially the race to moon, came project management and quality insurrance. Basically it is "how to be sure that I won't forget something, how to be sure that there will be no collateral effect etc. How could my product fail and what would it cause for the user.."

To me KDE still work the intuitive way: a developper think about something, he take his keyboard, he hack a little bit, he post on KDEapps.org and that's over. On the other hand, industry like MS etc has fully made this step beyond, that is the reason why windows 7 is far more stable than 98 while on the other hand, some people say KDE today is less stable than it was in 98 (personally I have no idea, I was too young..)

I really think it is important to do this step beyond because it would allow us to do more with less, and everyone knows that we don't have an unlimited number of developper, hence the need to get as much as we can from their work.

To me there are a lot of interesting reflexion to have like how the Comunity tests his products. How do we know that a product is good enough for release or not, but also the place of users: sometimes users think they are only here to enjoy while there role is more to express clearly there needs and also to test beta versions.

Don't get it wrong, these are not dummy questions at all and it imply a big change in the way we work. For example, the fact that users should test more also imply that we give them an easy way to test (compile a software from source is not really easy for a lambda user) .This could for example be done by a software who act like a "source manager" (Quite often when you compile you lack development library and you have to download them by your own, it is not really easy for lambda users) But that's just an idea. A lot of things could resulte from those reflexions

People. let me know what is your point of view!

wotan wrote:

valoriez wrote: So shall we put our heads together and work out better ways to do that?

To me definitely yes! People. let me know what is your point of view!

Just that

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