I am Always in love with the looks of watercolour / aqarelle on paper. Krita has not yet any good tool to simulate the looks of watercolour. Rebelle software http://www.escapemotions.com/products/rebelle/ from Escape Motion, has. Another link is to this guy and his Farbe: http://derschmale.com/demo/farbe/watercolour/FarbeWaterColour.html.

Oh! How I wish Krita had this tool in the toolbox, or something like it. Maybe David Lenaerts is willing to connect to Krita for a true digital watercolour tool?

holy moly, using the demo right now

its fairly cheap, why not just buy it? artrage has some fairly decent watercolour brushes, but this is mindblowing.
thanks for sharing. I'll have to read more about it later.

basically looks like a simulation, I suppose Blenders dynamic paint works in a similar fashion? probably requires a lot of ram, i have 32gb, but i wonder how it runs for the average user.

nharmony wrote:holy moly, using the demo right now its fairly cheap, why not just buy it? artrage has some fairly decent watercolour brushes, but this is mindblowing.
thanks for sharing. I'll have to read more about it later. .

Buy it? Thnk you for the suggestion. I been using Rebelle for some week and payed for it. I started using ArtRage 10 years ago and I know all about it...

nharmony wrote: basically looks like a simulation, .

I am sure it is simulation. No water inside the computer I hope...

nharmony wrote:I suppose Blenders dynamic paint works in a similar fashion? probably requires a lot of ram, i have 32gb, but i wonder how it runs for the average user.

Blender as a paint application - well, I don't Think so, not for me. I run Rebelle on my Surface Pro 3 with 4 GB ram - no problems at all. My desktop computer has 8 GB ram. Rebelle: no problems .

Why I suggest a proper Watercolour tool because Krita needs to keep up with the other paint apps out there. So in a not to far future I like to see what other software like Photoshop and other offers. Even Painter Mobile and Infinite Painter got it. This small "aquarelle" is done on my Galaxy Note using Painter Mobile...

There is this brushset that you can use: http://tonnnonn.tumblr.com/post/114396710296/krita2-9
with some fiddling with the new layer styles feature you can get close to the effect you want

It's an alternative to try at least! Here's a previous thread discussing the same issue: viewtopic.php?f=288&t=125456

i wasn't suggesting using a blender as a painting tool, it was more of a note for developers to look into the code, maybe they would discover something.

My remarks weren't meant to sound snide.

I was able to make some realistic "Edge" effects using the stroke option set to burn blending in layers style. It's not perfect but it's not bad either so for me, for the moment, it's an ok workaround.

Correction. Not a viable workaround, looks horrible the larger the brushes are. I do think an option to add a water color edge to brushes would be great. We don't necessarily need a water color simulation brush engine, but at least a way to make water/wet edges. This and the option to save colors with the brush presets are what Krita needs right now. I would love to save a non photo blue pencil, a red photo pencil, a gray or brown pencil as a preset without having to always pick the colors. Photoshop, painter, manga, tvpaint and a few others lets you save colors with presets and have wet edges. Again I feel like Krita would only benefit having these options as well.

I am an oldie, have been using computers for painting and drawing since I bought my first Amiga in mid 1980s. I am a digital painter. But still I refer to those "natural medias" like watercolours, chalk, pastels, pens and pencils, acrylics... on paper or canvas... as the way to think of computer paint and draw tools. Maybe that is a wrong way to think? Maybe all tools should be looking just like "computer" or "digital" and not try to imitate "natural media"? I think Krita tools are much more digital looking than I like.

I tend to like the looks of "natural media art" and therefore always use software that have the most "natural" looking tools. My favourite analogue painting / drawing tech is watercolour and graphite pencil on paper. The illustrations I work with are always looking aquarelleish / watercoloursish, made on paper or computer. I can easily use ArtRage for that look, ClipPaint, Photoshop or Rebelle. Maybe Painter. Krita is not there yet. Not in the neighbourhood.

Of course I support Krita, I do... and I am looking forward to every new version.

ramskulls wrote:There is this brushset that you can use: http://tonnnonn.tumblr.com/post/114396710296/krita2-9
with some fiddling with the new layer styles feature you can get close to the effect you want

It's an alternative to try at least! Here's a previous thread discussing the same issue: viewtopic.php?f=288&t=125456

I have been using the Tonnnonn brushes for a while and I guess it was thanks to you I found them. I like them very much. But the looks of watercolour can be very different and to me "very charming" or "dramatic" in the hands of different painters. I don't mean only the subject of the painting, but the expressions of the stroke and marks on the paper and the use of the brush. The complete wideness of expressions of watercolour, or rather aquarelle, is probably impossible to recreate in a computer. But basic expressions like "flow", "fringe", "dry brush", "wet Brush", "texture" "pigment settling" "pooling" "mixing"...are already there in different software.

Here is a link to a very dramatic watercolourist that I love: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lar ... ORM=HDRSC2

And Another to "very charming" watercolourist: http://huaban.com/pins/148006664/

Here is Another link to the latest Studio Ghible film in watercolour style: https://youtu.be/ILVGna1QMkc

Working with real watercolours on paper are expensive, time consuming, non forgiving, etc. That is why I love working with digital watercolour tools...!

This paintop: https://share.kde.org/public.php?service=files&t=46be7320de2bb39c2829c80ea6e32ff1 Does the edges+granulation+increasing opacity if you set the flow low+darkening. But it doesn't do fluid simulation.

Thing is, fluid simulation is really really really hard, so unless we attract a developer who likes doing fluid simulations, this'll take a backseat. Mostly because we're afraid that if we implement something nilly-willy we'll end up with something completely unsatisfactory (Like, the previous attempt would mess up all your undo states.)

If you think either of those guys might be interested in reimplementing this into Krita, why don't you ask if they are interested?

TheraHedwig wrote:This paintop: https://share.kde.org/public.php?service=files&t=46be7320de2bb39c2829c80ea6e32ff1 Does the edges+granulation+increasing opacity if you set the flow low+darkening. But it doesn't do fluid simulation.

Thing is, fluid simulation is really really really hard, so unless we attract a developer who likes doing fluid simulations, this'll take a backseat. Mostly because we're afraid that if we implement something nilly-willy we'll end up with something completely unsatisfactory (Like, the previous attempt would mess up all your undo states.)

If you think either of those guys might be interested in reimplementing this into Krita, why don't you ask if they are interested?

For me the fringe effect is all I require. I for one don't want or need computation intense algorithms ( just to try emulate something that can't fully be emulated on a computer), but a with decent fringe or wet edge option I can digitally fake a convincing watercolor. These images were made with Paint Tool Sai. The water edge effect in the gradient (upper right on the Indian image) are not photo images or images brushes with edges. I made it look convincing because Sai lets you create edges via layer options and it works. I really wish Krita had this option as well. BTW I made these for an online illo classe when I was in college. They were supposed to be done in real watercolor, but I was pressed for time and didn't have all my paints so I cheated a bit

artmessiah, you can always try the layer style feature now i think there's one called stroke(or inner glow?) that can emulate the effect you are talking about.

ramskulls wrote:artmessiah, you can always try the layer style feature now i think there's one called stroke(or inner glow?) that can emulate the effect you are talking about.

Already tried. I talked about that a couple post up. I didn't look that great and was really slow especially with the mix brushes.