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[jujudeshighlands@chakra-pc-juju ~]$ gdb --pid=`pidof plasma-desktop`
bash: pidof : commande introuvable
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Illegal process-id: .
(gdb) bt
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Here are the additional informations I get with your advices....

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Application: plasma-desktop (0.4)
KDE Platform Version: 4.9.2
Qt Version: 4.8.3
Operating System: Linux 3.5.6-1-CHAKRA x86_64
Distribution: "Chakra"

-- Information about the crash:
<Indiquez-nous en détails ce que vous faisiez lors du plantage de l'application.>

The crash can be reproduced every time.

-- Backtrace:
Application: Outil de gestion de fenêtres Plasma (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7fcbe3bb4780 (LWP 712))]

Thread 15 (Thread 0x7fcbba19f700 (LWP 719)):
#0  0x00007fcbe121c0bf in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007fcbde0f7264 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007fcbde0f7384 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007fcbe282d936 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbe27fe5ff in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbe27fe888 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbe27005f0 in QThread::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe27def5f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#10 0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 14 (Thread 0x7fcbb2ea7700 (LWP 722)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbd5d54747 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd5d54779 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7fcb92113700 (LWP 32457)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 12 (Thread 0x7fcb931df700 (LWP 32458)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 11 (Thread 0x7fcba8d07700 (LWP 32459)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#10 0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 10 (Thread 0x7fcbab51f700 (LWP 32460)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#9  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#10 0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#11 0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#12 0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#13 0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#14 0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 9 (Thread 0x7fcb91912700 (LWP 32461)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fcb7bfff700 (LWP 32462)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7fcb7b7fe700 (LWP 32463)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#9  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#10 0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#11 0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#13 0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7fcb7affd700 (LWP 32464)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fcb7a7fc700 (LWP 32465)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#9  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#10 0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#11 0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fcb79ffb700 (LWP 32466)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fcb797fa700 (LWP 32467)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fcb78ff9700 (LWP 32468)):
#0  0x00007fcbe2473aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fcbe2703adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fcbd4faaa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007fcbd4fad2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007fcbd4fad2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007fcbd4fac11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbd4fac1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007fcbe270357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fcbe246fede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007fcbe122460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fcbe3bb4780 (LWP 712)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5  0x00007fcbe1f5bfd8 in QGraphicsItemPrivate::setVisibleHelper(bool, bool, bool) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#6  0x00007fcbc799a809 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so
#7  0x00007fcbc888b59a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#8  0x00007fcbc888c425 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#9  0x00007fcbc881cfb6 in function_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#10 0x00007fcbc87f954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#11 0x00007fcbc8807b28 in instancemethod_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#12 0x00007fcbc87f954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#13 0x00007fcbc8885ab7 in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#14 0x00007fcbc884c77e in slot_tp_del () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#15 0x00007fcbc8848e39 in subtype_dealloc () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#16 0x00007fcbc882be07 in insertdict () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#17 0x00007fcbc882e2a2 in PyDict_SetItem () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#18 0x00007fcbc8833628 in _PyObject_GenericSetAttrWithDict () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#19 0x00007fcbc883306f in PyObject_SetAttr () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#20 0x00007fcbc8887e91 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#21 0x00007fcbc888c425 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#22 0x00007fcbc881cfb6 in function_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#23 0x00007fcbc87f954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#24 0x00007fcbc8807b28 in instancemethod_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#25 0x00007fcbc87f954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#26 0x00007fcbc8885ab7 in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#27 0x00007fcbc7f18692 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sip.so
#28 0x00007fcbc7f1975b in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sip.so
#29 0x00007fcbc71b2c66 in sipPlasma_AppletScript::~sipPlasma_AppletScript() () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasma.so
#30 0x00007fcbc71b2c79 in sipPlasma_AppletScript::~sipPlasma_AppletScript() () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasma.so
#31 0x00007fcbd7d77f88 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#32 0x00007fcbd7d814fd in Plasma::Applet::~Applet() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#33 0x00007fcbd7d81549 in Plasma::Applet::~Applet() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#34 0x00007fcbd7d90d9e in Plasma::Containment::~Containment() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#35 0x00007fcbc32c7399 in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_containment_desktop.so
#36 0x00007fcbd7da13ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#37 0x00007fcbd7da15b5 in Plasma::Corona::~Corona() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#38 0x00007fcbcf67f3d9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#39 0x00007fcbcf69f23b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#40 0x00007fcbcf69f370 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#41 0x00007fcbcf6af26b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#42 0x00007fcbdf55add3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#43 0x00007fcbdf55bdf6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#44 0x00007fcbdf55c6fa in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#45 0x00007fcbdf55c92b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#46 0x00007fcbe281418e in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#47 0x00007fcbe19b9d54 in QApplication::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#48 0x00007fcbe19b7c4c in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#49 0x00007fcbe19bc0ca in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#50 0x00007fcbe35a6be6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#51 0x00007fcbe27ff8ae in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#52 0x00007fcbe2803211 in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#53 0x00007fcbe282d783 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#54 0x00007fcbde0f6eac in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#55 0x00007fcbde0f72c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#56 0x00007fcbde0f7384 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#57 0x00007fcbe282d916 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#58 0x00007fcbe1a5796e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#59 0x00007fcbe27fe5ff in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#60 0x00007fcbe27fe888 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#61 0x00007fcbe2803528 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#62 0x00007fcbcf68af25 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#63 0x00000000004080b7 in _start ()

Oh great. pidof is in sysvinit-tools and you're probably using systemd - any further comment on that would result in a rant about someone being a complete moron who should no way be allowed to work on the most critical unix process at all.

Ok, obtain the pid of plasma-desktop like "ps ax | grep plasma" - it's the one that doesn't mention "grep"

run "gdb --pid=<obtained pid here>" eg "gdb --pid=12345" and otherwise follow the former pattern.

The backtrace is a crash in some python plasmoid, python or the python-qt or python-plasma bindings.
The plasmoid could be the culprit of your problems, though, so if you know what it would be: remove it and see what happens.

Hey
Thanks for our help anyway.
So here are the outputs.

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(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007f139057c0bf in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f138d457264 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007f138d457384 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007f1391b8d916 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0x00007f1390db796e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#5  0x00007f1391b5e5ff in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#6  0x00007f1391b5e888 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391b63528 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f137e9eaf25 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#9  0x00000000004080b7 in _start ()
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Application: Outil de gestion de fenêtres Plasma (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f1392f16780 (LWP 746))]

Thread 15 (Thread 0x7f13694ff700 (LWP 753)):
#0  0x00007f139057c0bf in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f138d457264 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007f138d457384 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007f1391b8d936 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0x00007f1391b5e5ff in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0x00007f1391b5e888 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#6  0x00007f1391a605f0 in QThread::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391b3ef5f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#10 0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 14 (Thread 0x7f13621e7700 (LWP 756)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f13850b4747 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#2  0x00007f13850b4779 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#3  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7f135909f700 (LWP 1297)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 12 (Thread 0x7f135a7bf700 (LWP 1298)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 11 (Thread 0x7f134a41f700 (LWP 1299)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 10 (Thread 0x7f1349c1e700 (LWP 1300)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 9 (Thread 0x7f134941d700 (LWP 1301)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7f1348c1c700 (LWP 1302)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7f1343fff700 (LWP 1303)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7f13437fe700 (LWP 1304)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7f1342ffd700 (LWP 1305)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7f13427fc700 (LWP 1306)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f1341ffb700 (LWP 1307)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f13417fa700 (LWP 1308)):
#0  0x00007f13917d3aa4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f1391a63adb in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f138430aa61 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#3  0x00007f138430d2ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#4  0x00007f138430d2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#5  0x00007f138430c11f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#6  0x00007f138430c1ab in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run() () from /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4
#7  0x00007f1391a6357c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007f13917cfede in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x00007f139058460d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f1392f16780 (LWP 746)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5  0x00007f13912bbfd8 in QGraphicsItemPrivate::setVisibleHelper(bool, bool, bool) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#6  0x00007f1376cfa809 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so
#7  0x00007f1377beb59a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#8  0x00007f1377bec425 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#9  0x00007f1377b7cfb6 in function_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#10 0x00007f1377b5954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#11 0x00007f1377b67b28 in instancemethod_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#12 0x00007f1377b5954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#13 0x00007f1377be5ab7 in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#14 0x00007f1377bac77e in slot_tp_del () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#15 0x00007f1377ba8e39 in subtype_dealloc () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#16 0x00007f1377b8be07 in insertdict () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#17 0x00007f1377b8e2a2 in PyDict_SetItem () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#18 0x00007f1377b93628 in _PyObject_GenericSetAttrWithDict () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#19 0x00007f1377b9306f in PyObject_SetAttr () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#20 0x00007f1377be7e91 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#21 0x00007f1377bec425 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#22 0x00007f1377b7cfb6 in function_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#23 0x00007f1377b5954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#24 0x00007f1377b67b28 in instancemethod_call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#25 0x00007f1377b5954e in PyObject_Call () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#26 0x00007f1377be5ab7 in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords () from /usr/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#27 0x00007f1377278692 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sip.so
#28 0x00007f137727975b in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sip.so
#29 0x00007f1376512c66 in sipPlasma_AppletScript::~sipPlasma_AppletScript() () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasma.so
#30 0x00007f1376512c79 in sipPlasma_AppletScript::~sipPlasma_AppletScript() () from /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasma.so
#31 0x00007f13870d7f88 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#32 0x00007f13870e14fd in Plasma::Applet::~Applet() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#33 0x00007f13870e1549 in Plasma::Applet::~Applet() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#34 0x00007f13870f0d9e in Plasma::Containment::~Containment() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#35 0x00007f1372627399 in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_containment_desktop.so
#36 0x00007f13871013ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#37 0x00007f13871015b5 in Plasma::Corona::~Corona() () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#38 0x00007f137e9df3d9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#39 0x00007f137e9ff23b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#40 0x00007f137e9ff370 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#41 0x00007f137ea0f26b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#42 0x00007f138e8badd3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#43 0x00007f138e8bbdf6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#44 0x00007f138e8bc6fa in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#45 0x00007f138e8bc92b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#46 0x00007f1391b7418e in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#47 0x00007f1390d19d54 in QApplication::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#48 0x00007f1390d17c4c in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#49 0x00007f1390d1c0ca in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#50 0x00007f1392906be6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#51 0x00007f1391b5f8ae in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#52 0x00007f1391b63211 in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#53 0x00007f1391b8d783 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#54 0x00007f138d456eac in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#55 0x00007f138d4572c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#56 0x00007f138d457384 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#57 0x00007f1391b8d916 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#58 0x00007f1390db796e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#59 0x00007f1391b5e5ff in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#60 0x00007f1391b5e888 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#61 0x00007f1391b63528 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#62 0x00007f137e9eaf25 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so

The first trace is just the event dispatcher, nothing is hanging at that time.
The crashtrace is (again) caused by the deconstruction of some python plasmoid (likely the same) and you should file that at bugs.kde.org against the plasma component.
The odds are high that the crash-on-exit is responsible for the plasmoid mess-up.

Thanks even if unsolved yet.

Just to confirm that the Python applet / bindings are indeed at fault, could you please try removing the applet in question and then closing Plasma Desktop? (using kquitapp plasma-desktop).

Which plasmoid are you talking about?

Unfortunately you'll need to figure it out - all the applets that Plasma Desktop ships with as part of the base set or kdeplasma-addons are not Python based however. Best ones to look at would be the 3rd party ones (downloaded from kde-apps.org, or installed as seperate packages through the package manager).

Hi everyone!!!
I switched my system to KDE 4.9 beta 1.
After the first reboot, the problem was still the same.
On this morning, my system crashed and I had to make a hard reboot.
Since this reboot, the problem disappeared and I don't have to re-arrange my plasmoids anymore even when Plasma crashes.
I precise I didn't change the number and the layout of the plasmoids from the beginning.
Anyway it is solved so thanks guys