I'm using Kubuntu 8.10. I've used KDE 4.1.2 and 4.1.3. I upgraded from 8.04.

Kubuntu has a application called "System Settings", which I assume is Kconsole. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

First issue: In 8.04, The Kconsole packaged with it had a Wine control application. When I upgraded to 8.10, that disappeared. Is there a way to add this back in under KDE 4.1.x?

Second issue: In the Samba control application, the Workgroup blank is grayed out. Under 8.04, there used to be a button to do an administrator unlock, but that seems to have disappeared in the upgrade. How do I unlock this application so I can modify my workgroup setting?

(Please note, I posted this on the Kubuntu forums and received no response.)

Thanks,
denali

denali wrote:First issue: In 8.04, The Kconsole packaged with it had a Wine control application. When I upgraded to 8.10, that disappeared. Is there a way to add this back in under KDE 4.1.x?

Would that 8.04 installation be a KDE 3.5.x, and you only switched to KDE4 when upgrading to Kubuntu 8.10? Because I've never seen a wine module in the KDE4 systemsettings.

And no, kubuntu's system-settings isn't kcontrol. It's the successor of kcontrol . Kcontrol is the KDE3.x default "control panel". System-settings is the default "control panel" in KDE4, and IIRC it started its life in Kubuntu.

Wineconfig was a Kubuntu-specific tool that hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet.
It was emulating winecfg, which you still should be able to run if you have wine installed. It's not as convenient as the wineconfig kcm module, but it works.

Kryten2X4B wrote:

denali wrote:First issue: In 8.04, The Kconsole packaged with it had a Wine control application. When I upgraded to 8.10, that disappeared. Is there a way to add this back in under KDE 4.1.x?

Would that 8.04 installation be a KDE 3.5.x, and you only switched to KDE4 when upgrading to Kubuntu 8.10? Because I've never seen a wine module in the KDE4 systemsettings.

And no, kubuntu's system-settings isn't kcontrol. It's the successor of kcontrol . Kcontrol is the KDE3.x default "control panel". System-settings is the default "control panel" in KDE4, and IIRC it started its life in Kubuntu.

It looks like the answer concerning the Wine module is in the message after yours.

Thank you for the clarification concerning Kcontrol/System-settings. I've learned something and I appreciate it!

denali[hr]

JontheEchinda wrote:Wineconfig was a Kubuntu-specific tool that hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet.
It was emulating winecfg, which you still should be able to run if you have wine installed. It's not as convenient as the wineconfig kcm module, but it works.

You are correct, I can indeed run winecfg and do when necessary. I just really liked how the wineconfig module worked.

Thanks for the info! Only question left is concerning Samba.

denali

For Wine I recently discovered qtwine:

http://qtwine.sourceforge.net/
http://github.com/gkiagia/qtwine/tree/master

In the end, I got tired of the default look and feel of KDE3-applications in my Kubuntu 8.10 and decided to customize it.

And I just couldn't figure out how to do it.

systemsettings is for KDE4 and gtk applications, there is no kcontrol in repositories, kcmshell --list returns null

Functionality of qt3-qtconfig is limited and its settings don't seem to be applicable.

How can a user assign a style (and configure it if possible), colour scheme and icons to KDE3 applications with GUI?

And there are plenty of such applications in Ubuntu repos.

Bug in launchpad

Unlocking to "Administrator Mode" is currently a work in progress unfortunately. however you can work around the issue by running system-settings as root. Issue the command kdesu systemsettings. Note that you cannot use sudo, as KDE 4 applications do not run properly as root. I do not know if this command will work for you though, because you use Kubuntu, which does not set the root password.

Issue the command kdesu system-settings

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kdesudo systemsettings

that would be the Kubuntu difference I was expecting If you are running OpenSuSE, Fedora, etc. then it is kdesu not kdesudo, for those users who are trying it under those distro's ( I run OpenSuSE and kdesudo does not even exist )

bcooksley wrote:that would be the Kubuntu difference I was expecting If you are running OpenSuSE, Fedora, etc. then it is kdesu not kdesudo, for those users who are trying it under those distro's ( I run OpenSuSE and kdesudo does not even exist )

Great! Thanks!

So kcontrol is not part of KDE 4 anymore? Only systemsettings?
I find systemsettings pretty inferior w.r.t. kcontrol (for instance where can I change the graphic driver?)
Moreover, also configuration of printers got worse... for instance system-config-printer-kde does not even perform samba scanning (while the version in KDE 3 did that), and you can't even change printer settings from there...[hr]
So kcontrol is not part of KDE 4 anymore? Only systemsettings?
I find systemsettings pretty inferior w.r.t. kcontrol (for instance where can I change the graphic driver?)
Moreover, also configuration of printers got worse... for instance system-config-printer-kde does not even perform samba scanning (while the version in KDE 3 did that), and you can't even change printer settings from there...

System Settings and KControl are actually built on the same framework ( KControl Modules ). Regarding the loss of printing configuration, that is actually related to the loss of KPrinter because KDE 4 is going multi platform. Unfortunately that requires that it be completely rewritten, which the developer for it has been unable to do until recently, however that developer is working on it, but for KDE 4.3, so that it has time to be properly finished rather than rushed.

system-config-printer-kde was actually brought over from Kubuntu so that you could monitor print jobs and perform basic configuration using KDE tools.

Also there are 2 different kcmshell's. kcmshell is the KDE 3 version, while kcmshell4 is the KDE 4 version. All kcmshell --list returning nothing means is that you have no KDE 3 KCM's installed. There should be modules available from the Kubuntu repository still even though KDE 3 itself is not there.

There should be modules available from the Kubuntu repository still even though KDE 3 itself is not there.

And the problem is:

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$ aptitude search kcm
p   heimdal-kcm                                                    - Heimdal Kerberos - KCM daemon
p   kcm-gtk-kde4                                                   - tool to make your GTK+ apps look like KDE ones
i   kcmnvview                                                      - KDE Info Center Module for NVIDIA graphic cards
p   kcmpureftpd                                                    - KControl module for easily setting up pure-ftpd

And no one to configure kde3-apps

So they removed them. I take it that means that only a handful ( amarok ) of KDE 3 applications will be left then. You will have to try the Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 3 community repository then, which will have them by definition. I do not know if you will be able to use them though because the person designed his packages to remove KDE 4. I cannot believe they actually removed the look and feel modules though.

and what about the configuration of the graphic card? I assume that is not possible either, is it?