Hopeless connection time for wireless on opensuse 11.3/kde4.4.4 rel 2. What on earth is going on. With opensuse 11.2 and KDE 3.? I my wifi connection was completed a few seconds after the desktop came up. With present setup it is taking 3 minutes.
I have tried running the suggested fix from this forum but it is no better.
knetwork manager needs more work. Is anybody doing anything to improve situation?
Budgie2

Is this due to the KWallet integration? On my system, with a password less wallet, the connection is completed a second or so after login completes ( which is less than 10 seconds after I finish entering my password )

bcooksley wrote:Is this due to the KWallet integration? On my system, with a password less wallet, the connection is completed a second or so after login completes ( which is less than 10 seconds after I finish entering my password )

Hi and thanks for the thought. No wallet password set here either. The connection after several seconds was how it used to be on laptop in question with 11.2.

There was a suggested fix code in opensuse forum to be run as su:

sed -e '/LD_BIND_NOW=/!b' -e '/+knetworkmanager/!s/$/ +knetworkmanager/' /usr/bin/startkde >/tmp/startkde-intermediate
cat /tmp/startkde-intermediate >/usr/bin/startkde
rm /tmp/startkde-intermediate

Not sure what this does. Suggests to me that there are parameters which one should be able to set from properties screen of knetworkmanager but cannot at present. When I have time will look at man pages but meanwhile you may be able to illuminate.

Bottom line is that this fix didn't appear to change anything and certainly didn't give the previous performance. Surely whoever has ownership of this software should be able to help or be made aware he has made product worse than it had been and encouraged to explain.
Regards,
Budgie2

If you create a new user, and setup KNetworkManager, does the performance of it change?
That command will likely reduce the performance of KNetworkManager autostart. Whomever wrote that also needs to check their commands, as KNetworkManager isn't listed at all in the content of /usr/bin/startkde

bcooksley wrote:If you create a new user, and setup KNetworkManager, does the performance of it change?
That command will likely reduce the performance of KNetworkManager autostart. Whomever wrote that also needs to check their commands, as KNetworkManager isn't listed at all in the content of /usr/bin/startkde

Hi and thanks again for the reply. The script came from the opensuse forum but as noted didn't appear to work. You have explained why.

I created a new user and re-booted as you suggested. Very strange behavior (to me) followed. First I didn't get the same desktop (blue and whole screen) but a green windowed desktop. Secondly I have two icons for knetworkmanager one a large blue M labeled knetworkmanager and a gearwheel icon labelled "start knetworkmanager". Clicking on either did nothing and no wireless supplicant appeared to run. Clearly I must have something set up wrong. I had to revert to my original id to post this.
No idea whether issues are all related but any light you can shine would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Budgie2

Could you supply a screenshot of the new user's desktop please? You will need to use an external site such as Imagebin.

bcooksley wrote:Could you supply a screenshot of the new user's desktop please? You will need to use an external site such as Imagebin.

Ok & thanks. Screenshot should be on Imagebin as New_user_screenshot by Budgie2.
Hope this helps.
Budgie2

Follow up info. I now have found out how to get to wireless setup as new user. Not as I expected by clicking on knetworkmanager but by right clicking on a plasmoid icon of the network connection plug. Pretty oblique don't you think? Anyhow I now have wireless connection as new user so will time availability of connection after reboot to new user and report back.

Budgie2 wrote:Follow up info. I now have found out how to get to wireless setup as new user. Not as I expected by clicking on knetworkmanager but by right clicking on a plasmoid icon of the network connection plug. Pretty oblique don't you think? Anyhow I now have wireless connection as new user so will time availability of connection after reboot to new user and report back.

Well it still takes 3 minutes or so after desktop wallpaper appears.
Clearly there are other problems with this installation. The updater applet widget doesn't appear but the gap where it belongs behaves as though it were. The widget itself only appears after wireless connection has been made. Also Recent Notifications fills the corner of the screen and is reluctant to go.

Should I upgrade kde before spending more time on these issues?
Budgie2

Yes, please upgrade to KDE 4.5+

Which graphics driver are you using? You may need to disable the Blur and Lanczos effects.

bcooksley wrote:Yes, please upgrade to KDE 4.5+

Which graphics driver are you using? You may need to disable the Blur and Lanczos effects.

OK I have 4.5 installed. Sadly, booting now takes almost as long as WinXP and the widgets seem to have a will of their own. It will take a bit of getting used to and I have lost some familiar icons in the upgrade process and others which used to have colour are now in monochrome. Is there a "restore default" option anywhere or "classic view" or some means to get my desktop back to what I recognize until I have learned how to use the new version?

re:- graphics driver I have
ATI Radeon LW with radeon driver and R100 classic (7.8.2) 3D.
At least that is what the system info has for Display. No idea what Blur and Lanczos effects are but screen display is the best of any OS on this machine (T42 with original WinXP, eCS 2.0 and openSUSE 11.3)

Budgie2
The wifi connection took about the same time to associate as before but I have a different widget now which does not show signal strength unless I hover cursor over it.

Not sure what is happening. To avoid the chance that old configurations are causing problems, please create a new user and test under there.

The Blur and Lanczos effects are Desktop Effects which can cause the system to be visually less responsive if the graphics driver does not fully support them.

bcooksley wrote:Not sure what is happening. To avoid the chance that old configurations are causing problems, please create a new user and test under there.

The Blur and Lanczos effects are Desktop Effects which can cause the system to be visually less responsive if the graphics driver does not fully support them.

OK. Created a new user and restarted and logged on as new user. The screen appeared similar to the one I posted and the panel was closer to the one I was used to in previous versions. However the wireless wouldn't start. The icon for knetwork manager was not the usual M but a "plug & socket" Clicking on it did nothing but eventually there was a greyed out message that it was disabled. Couldn't get it to start or give me a configuration page. In the end gave up and rebooted and logged on as myself so I could post this.

Given the time I am wasting I am reconciled to the slow startup of wifi while it is still working.

I may just reinstall opensuse 11.2 where most things were fine and everything started faster but before I give up, please could you advise how I can reset my panel. For example, the small icon for Dolphin, which used to reside in the panel, is now sitting in the middle of my desktop. If I try to drag it back to where it was it goes under the panel and so becomes hidden.
Meanwhile all the icons which used to be in colour are now grey although if I put the cursor over them a coloured version pops up.

Spent some time reading kde help pages but not found anything of much use, hence this plea for help.
Regards,
Budgie2

Resetting your panel is most easily done by removing the Plasma configuration.

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kquitapp plasma-desktop
mkdir -p ~/old-plasmaconf
mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-* ~/old-plasmaconf
plasma-desktop &

bcooksley wrote:Resetting your panel is most easily done by removing the Plasma configuration.

Code: Select all

kquitapp plasma-desktop
mkdir -p ~/old-plasmaconf
mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-* ~/old-plasmaconf
plasma-desktop &

Hi, ran this as su in terminal. Is that correct? I got lots of errors and no effect.

Will try again tomorrow.
Regards,
Budgie2