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Keessince1988
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Network manager not practical

Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:37 pm
Hi!



I've been a GNOME user for about 2 years and now I've switched to KDE. One of the things that bothers me is the KDE network manager, I can't manage anything properly.

I can't seem to disable, enable or configure ethernet interfaces with it. It's also a nightmare to add a wireless network, even with the option 'connect automaticly' enabled it's still a guessing game if the network really connects in an instand. Most of the time I have to wait a long time... A 'connect now' button is really missing in the manager.

Now I want to know if I'm wrong, is the manager really that bad? If it is I think we need to come up with some ideas to improve this issue. :-)

I'm using Debian Testing with KDE 4.4.5


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Re: Network manager not practical

Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:38 am
Nobody has ever used the KDE network manager here on this KDE forum? xD
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:01 am
I don't use debian so I can't say. Are you knetworkmanager or the network manager plasmoid? The former is deprecated, but I don't recall if this was before or after KDE 4.4.


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Re: Network manager not practical

Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:55 am
TheBlackCat wrote:I don't use debian so I can't say. Are you knetworkmanager or the network manager plasmoid? The former is deprecated, but I don't recall if this was before or after KDE 4.4.


No it's in all KDE versions, Kubuntu is also missing a 'connect now' button and specific configurations for the NIC's. But no one is bothered by that? It's more tempting to configure them with the commandline than with the KDE GUI.
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Re: Network manager not practical

Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:47 am
Try using WICD to see if it fit your needs.

I used WICD and now I'm using Knetworkmanager plasmoid for RJ-45 networking and Wi-FI. And so far the only complain that I have is that hovering over the network icon on the system tray only says connected instead of "Connected to something". I have to click to see more details.

I quit using WICD not becaus it was bad (I belive it's better than Knetworkmanager that has the ability to crash sometimes without reason), but because I had problems with permissions.
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Re: Network manager not practical

Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:08 pm
Keessince1988 wrote:No it's in all KDE versions, Kubuntu is also missing a 'connect now' button and specific configurations for the NIC's. But no one is bothered by that? It's more tempting to configure them with the commandline than with the KDE GUI.

Sorry, I am not following you. Are you using knetworkmanager or the plasmoid? I can't really help you unless I know which it is.


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Re: Network manager not practical

Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:31 pm
I am using KNetwork manager on KDE 4.6 Beta2 on Kubunutu. No issues, working fine. Except that "Show More" button has no effect.
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Re: Network manager not practical

Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:59 am
I'm using the below one, Knetworkmanager. When you have 3+ WiFi connections (such as in universities) then it isn't very practical to have a 'connect automatically' function on a hard to reach place. A 'connect now' button should be visible when you select a WiFi connection. That's my point. Anyone else with me? 8)

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Re: Network manager not practical

Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:46 am
That interface is only used for setting up connections, and even then only when something unusual needs to be done. A plasma widget or system tray icon is used for picking which connection you actually want to use at a particular point in time.

In other words, what you are showing is intended as a configuration tool, not as a tool for actually making connections. You should check your system tray to find the interface for making connections. At least in my version the system tray/plasma interface also shows clearly what is currently connected, shows a list of available wireless connections that are in range, and shows connection stats.


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Re: Network manager not practical

Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:01 am
It already has this feature actually...
See http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0 ... ktopv14281

This is shown when you click on the applet, you can then select the name of the network (i've blurred them all out in that picture, but you can see the signal strength). You don't need to go into System Settings for this (although you do for making it connect automatically, something which probably should be a default I think)


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Re: Network manager not practical

Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:29 pm
That's KDE 4.6 right? I'm still using 4.4.5. What is the name of the plasma widget? I'm running a minimum installation ;-)
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Re: Network manager not practical

Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:06 pm
Either it has a plasma widget or a system tray program. Either way that is where you actually choose connections. I don't know what it would be called on debian. Once it is installed it is just called Network Management, but what the package is, if it even exists, I don't know. But if you don't have the plasma widget installed you should have the system tray icon available instead.


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Re: Network manager not practical  Topic is solved

Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:52 pm
Keessince1988 wrote:That's KDE 4.6 right? I'm still using 4.4.5. What is the name of the plasma widget? I'm running a minimum installation ;-)


plasma-widget-networkmanagement

you may also have to enable it in the System Tray options once installed


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Re: Network manager not practical

Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:07 am
claydoh wrote:
Keessince1988 wrote:That's KDE 4.6 right? I'm still using 4.4.5. What is the name of the plasma widget? I'm running a minimum installation ;-)


plasma-widget-networkmanagement

you may also have to enable it in the System Tray options once installed


Thanks! It was already installed, but for some reason Debian thought it wasn't necessary to have it enabled by default.

PS: For all Debian users; the slow bootup is also solved when this widget is enabled! :-\ :D


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