KNetworkManager is not listed in the list of apps and i want to ask about a problem i have I m a new user in linux and dont know even the basics i just want to try it

Opensuse 11.3 kde 4.5.5
now the problem. i use knetwork it worked nice for some days now it disconnects every 30 or so seconds and again connects back

Second i couldnt make it start automatically when i boot so every time i opened linux i had to start the app

now i m writing i m using windows 7( sorry but they work better since my installation i had 4 bugs and a lot time spent to find how to upgrade fix internet and download the codecs)


KNetworkManager missing from forum apps

Moved to Internet and Network.

You should be using plasmoid-networkmanagement, not KNetworkManager. This will uninstall NetworkManager-kde4, that is normal. Once it is installed, right-click on the system tray, click system tray settings, and make sure Network Management is checked. It will start up automatically from then on.

my friend thank you you helped me twice today
1) i waited one day for the reply so i submited that also as a bug waiting for a quicker reply what can i do to erase the bug

2) i think it s not obvious i m new how should i know that simple step even if i googled it a lot i hope next new user wont find that probl it will be fixed by then

again thank you for your time

The problem is that this was not the case when openSUSE 11.3 was released. At that time knetworkmanager was the default. So when you install openSUSE 11.3 it makes the right decision and installs knetworkmanager. But then when you upgrade to KDE SC 4.5, it just converts over all of your packages to the latest version, so it keeps the default from before. Since KDE SC 4.5 is not a supported version of KDE in openSUSE 11.3, it is probably assumed that people will know what they are doing when they do the upgrade.

In openSUSE 11.4, plasmoid-Networkmanager is installed by default.

u r right cat but i m a new user trying to understand whats going on sorry for my odd and silly questions i m so new in linux world i m afraid i ll bother the forum again with my questions

The question is neither odd nor silly. The situation leads to a lot of confusion, you are not the first person to have this problem and it is not at all clear from how the repository is laid out.

There will hopefully be better approaches to such situations in the future, but the openSUSE KDE maintainers are unfortunately limited by the software they use to make the packages (which is unrelated to KDE).

now a question off topic to you. I dont want to move my data to linux(after all i dont even understand it) i m not also a power user i just do some easy work with my pc the basics but i d like to learn more about it whats your suggestion what can i do. I raead that testing bugs its a good way if thats correct which parts. what s your opinion

Sorry, I am not exactly clear on what your goals are. It sounds like at this point just playing around would be a good idea. I recommend browsing the KDE Userbase to get an idea about the sorts of things that KDE can do. Of course reporting bugs you encounter is a big help. If you can give me more specifics on your goals I could probably be more helpful.

You should probably make a new thread on that subject, though. I am sure there are lots of other people with useful suggestions.

You don't need to move any data over, Linux can read and write windows hard drive partitions easily enough.