where are the differences between 2 of theese profiles ?

webkit and khtml are different html layout engines for web browsing - the one chosen will render your web pages within Konq

webkit is a fork of khtml and it used by the Chrome and Safari browsers

but with webkit you can't see html5 content
but in khtml you can see it
why this

so I tested webkit using http://html5test.com/, of course no idea how valid the test is nor how applicable is to what html5 code is actually in place - just because it's tested for doesn't mean it currently is used/useful. My understanding is certain of the tests have no real world usage yet

Konq w/webkit 155 w/0 bonus pts
Konq w/khtml 79 w/9 bonus pts
Opera 11 177 w/7 bonus pts
FireFox 3.6 139 w/4 bonus pts
Chromium 10.x 244 w/13 bonus pts

as the above show (limited a test as it might be) Konq w/ webkit does pretty good with html5 relative to all but Chromium

I also went to some html5 example pages and successfully ran a few of the examples - of course ymmv

I tested now and it has been increased for 13 points. Konqueror has 92/450 points and 13 bonus points

Regarding HTML5 support and compliance, the best website to compare browsers would be

W3C HTML5 test suite
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/harness/harness.htm

and by running, going over the whole testsuite (924 tests).

The other websites ( html5test.com , html5demos.com , caniuse.com , findmebyip.com/litmus ) only test for support (or only reports the support) and not by how well, how correct, how accurate the implementation is for HTML5 features, HTML5 attributes, HTML5 methods. The only real, worthy comprehensive test suite on HTML5 is at
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/harness/harness.htm

Note that HTML5 is still in development. All HTML5 testing sites are stating this, including html5test.com (quote: "the specification isn't finalized yet").

Finally, there is no doubt that webkit rendering engine a bit more advanced, a bit more compliant, a bit more versatile than KHTML rendering engine. If nothing is done to reverse this, with time, KHTML rendering engine is going to have more problems rendering webpages accurately, accordingly.

regards, Gérard

Note that Konqueror webkit has no support for HTML5 video or audio whereas KHTML has some support; so each has their own strengths and weaknesses in relation to HTML5.

in this test :
http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/
konqueror does nothing at all. Strange no ?

Dimitrios wrote:http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/
konqueror does nothing at all.

Dimitrios,

Click the link named "Peacekeeper V1" at the bottom of the page (or http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action ), then close the popup and then click the "Benchmark Your Browser" button (with url http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/run.action ) . The test takes 5 minutes. You may want to have a CPU and memory monitoring widgets loaded and opened while taking the tests.
The tests check complex graphics, canvas, javascript intensively, DOM

Scores I got
============

Chrome 14.0.835202 : 9561

Opera 11.51 : 7721

Firefox 7.0.1 : 5141

Konqueror 4.7.2 : 1569


I am using KDE platform version 4.7.2, Qt version 4.7.4, Linux 3.0.0-12-generic-pae i686 (32bits), Kubuntu 11.10 oneiric, Adobe Flash player version: 11.0.1.152.

This sort of testing is not best. CSS 2.1 test suite (9500 testcases), HTML5 test suite (924 testcases), ECMAScript 5.1 test suite (11016 individual testcases), W3C DOM 2 and DOM 3 test suites, etc.. are generally much more reliable, trustworthy (because reviewed and corrected by W3C people and industry people) than what you can find on the web.

regards, Gérard

It works in this way
Me i have:

Chrome 14.0.835.163: 10915
Firefox 7.0.1: 6497
Rekonq : 4967
Konqueror: 2044

Kde 4.6.5
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.38.8-desktop-6.mga #1 SMP Mon Sep 26 20:27:50 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
flash-player-plugin-11.0.1.152-1.mga1.nonfree

i try html5 in youtube

Konqueror is the only browser between firefox rekonq chrome that supports the three formats:

Video tag
h.264
WebM

the others dont support the h.264

With konqueror i can play the videos but i dont have any video controls
With rekonq i cant play the video at all, and with the two others it works fine

http://www.youtube.com/html5

I konqueror 4.6.5

html5 test (http://html5test.com/)
96 points and 9 bonus points

And a test that i did with peacekeeper:
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeep ... n?key=6uWc

Now with kde 4.8.2 i have 97 points and 13 bonus points. A little better than the 4.6.5 but not very much

Dimitrios wrote:Now with kde 4.8.2 i have 97 points and 13 bonus points. A little better than the 4.6.5 but not very much

With KDE 4.8.90, and latest kwebkitpart from git i have 336 points, plus 14 bonus points. So there are definitely improvements.

šumski wrote:

Dimitrios wrote:Now with kde 4.8.2 i have 97 points and 13 bonus points. A little better than the 4.6.5 but not very much

With KDE 4.8.90, and latest kwebkitpart from git i have 336 points, plus 14 bonus points. So there are definitely improvements.

With webkit or with khtml ?
because i tried only with khtml