I can not get the video tag working with konqueror. It shows the player, but it never works, except for a local test file.

With a local html file, I can view any movie that dragonplayer can play using the video tag.

Example url: http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm

The video in the sample above can be played if I download it locally, or feeding dragonplayer the URL on the command line, but if i enter the url (http://www.quackit.com/video/pass-countdown.ogg) to the video directly into konquerors addressbar, it loads an empty video player.

I use kde 4.6 and uses the gstreamer phonon backend.

Can you get it to work (for example the above link)? Any idea what is missing (or is this just broken)?

http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm won't play because it's html5 and Konq doesn't do html5, I think? Nor does Rekonq

http://www.quackit.com/video/pass-countdown.ogg Konq tells me it can't open the Netscape plugin but it plays fine in Rekonq using the mPlyer plugin so, at least for me, there's a plugin issue with Konq. UPDATE: unclicked the open plugins on demand only and the link now plays.

Konq uses browser plugins for playing video such as the mplayerplug-in and the vlc-mozillaplugin, don't think the gstreamer phonon backend provides this and that might be why you get a empty player (but not sure exactly what you mean by blank player, picture might be good)

google01103 wrote:http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm won't play because it's html5 and Konq doesn't do html5, I think? Nor does Rekonq

KHTML can do html5 video tags.

google01103 wrote:http://www.quackit.com/video/pass-countdown.ogg Konq tells me it can't open the Netscape plugin but it plays fine in Rekonq using the mPlyer plugin so, at least for me, there's a plugin issue with Konq. UPDATE: unclicked the open plugins on demand only and the link now plays.

I can probably play the URL in konqueror/khtml if i make kmplayer the default kpart for video, but i believe for the video tag, phonon is used, so it does not make a lot of sense in that respect.

I was using webkit, using khtml http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm did play

If you place http://html5test.com/ in the location bar, you can find out what Konqueror or any other browser can do with HTML5. You will get different results in WebKit view mode.

However this reports that the video tag is implemented in KHTML and not in WebKit.

john_hudson wrote:If you place http://html5test.com/ in the location bar, you can find out what Konqueror or any other browser can do with HTML5. You will get different results in WebKit view mode.

However this reports that the video tag is implemented in KHTML and not in WebKit.

also that WebKit has implemented much more HTML5 then Html, just not the video tag (155pts vrs 79pts plus/13 bonus pts)

I repeat my question: Does it work for anyone?

Today, the quackit.com page actually did show the video - but I did not change anything in my system. The video was not scaled though. Maybe it worked because I played video in dragonplayer first? I find it odd that it suddenly worked - off to try other samples!

Perfectly in WebKit mode

google01103 wrote:http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm won't play because it's html5 and Konq doesn't do html5, I think?

Konqueror 4.6.3 supports the HTML5 <video> tag but only with ogg theora (type="video/ogv") and WebM codecs. Konqueror does not support h.264 (type="video/mp4") which IE9 and Safari 5 support.

THE HTML5 TEST
http://beta.html5test.com/index.html
Konqueror 4.6.3 scores 85 points. Chrome 12.0.742.91 scores 293 points.

HTML5 video test
http://html5demos.com/video
Unfortunately, such test has a bug. So, Konqueror is not to be blamed here.

VIDEO ON THE WEB
http://diveintohtml5.org/video.html

DETECTING HTML5 FEATURES: video
http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html#video

WebM/VP8 video format
http://caniuse.com/#feat=webm
Konqueror 4.6.3 supports WebM

MPEG-4/H.264 video format (not royalty free)
http://caniuse.com/#feat=mpeg4
Konqueror 4.6.3 does NOT support H.264

Ogg/Theora video format
http://caniuse.com/#feat=ogv
Konqueror 4.6.3 supports ogg theora

Video for Everybody!
http://camendesign.co.uk/code/video_for_everybody

We should ask that the section "Supported Web Browsers" at this page

http://www.webmproject.org/users/#suppo ... b_browsers

be updated to include Konqueror.

regards, Gérard

Good to know. Are you sure that video/mp4 is deliberately excluded? Perhaps it could be that the video/mp4 format is only unsupported because Phonon doesn't register support for it? (Which would be because the backend in question doesn't support it...)

google01103 wrote:http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_video_tag.cfm won't play because it's html5 and Konq doesn't do html5 (...)

The HTML5 test suite (still a *DRAFT*) has tests for the <video> tag.

HTML5 test suite (DRAFT; 924 tests)
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/harness/harness.htm

regards, Gérard

bcooksley wrote:Good to know. Are you sure that video/mp4 is deliberately excluded?

Everything and everywhere so far suggests that video/mp4 mimeType is not supported by Konqueror.

bcooksley wrote:Perhaps it could be that the video/mp4 format is only unsupported because Phonon doesn't register support for it? (Which would be because the backend in question doesn't support it...)

Beats me. I do not know. I do not think so but I could be wrong here.

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HTML5 tests on <video>

http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... tream.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ecs_1.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ecs_2.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ecs_3.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... _type.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... der_1.html
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http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... der_3.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ter_1.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ter_2.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ter_3.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... one_1.html
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http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... o_src.html
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http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... _null.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... nplay.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... rough.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ddata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... adata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... start.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... rough.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... aying.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ddata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... gress.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... pause.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... _play.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... aying.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... gress.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... itial.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... _play.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... pause.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... value.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... adata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... _none.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... oplay.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... nplay.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... rough.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ddata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... adata.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... aying.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... itial.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... xists.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... ments.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... value.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... start.html
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_000.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_001.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_002.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_004.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_005.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_006.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_007.htm
http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_008.htm
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http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved ... eo_013.htm

Best is to use the harness and then submit results to W3C people. It is in KDE users and in Konqueror users' best interests to do so actually.

regards, Gérard

regards, Gérard