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How to run Networkmanager-GNOME on KDE4

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Hi. This is really weird, that OpenSUSE 11.4 has been released with such a **** KNetworkManager and Plasmoid-Networkmanager. It even affects ifup/iwconfig (the traditional method to control the network interfaces)/

Now, I checked and also other users tested. Deinstalling the Networkmanager-kde4-libs RPM (and associated knetworkmanager and plasmoid packages) AND installing Networkmanager-GNOME makes wifi and mobile broadband WORK in the SAME KDE system!

Here you find a guide, how to make it work in KDE4 in openSUSE 11.4:

http://susestarter.blogspot.com/2011/03/step-2-need-mobile-broadband-use-gnome.html

And here a chatlog, proving that KNetworkmanager and Plasmoid affects EVEN ifup and iwconfig.

http://susestarter.blogspot.com/p/comment-on-wifi-in-opensuse-114.html

I encourage KDE4 users to use the Networkmanager-GNOME, as the KNM/PNM native stuff is very **** compared to the excellent GNOME applet.

I will appreciate any comments or ideas here or on the blog.

Have fun!
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First if you want to use ifup/iwconfig you need to change to Traditional mode in YaST. It won't work otherwise.

Secondly, the KDE Network Management stack should work fine, what issue did you have exactly? It can handle WPA/WPA-2 networks fine.


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Thank you for your reply!


bcooksley wrote:First if you want to use ifup/iwconfig you need to change to Traditional mode in YaST. It won't work otherwise.

Secondly, the KDE Network Management stack should work fine, what issue did you have exactly? It can handle WPA/WPA-2 networks fine.


First: I know about that. I have set it to ifup/iwconfig and another user did too. It didn't work EVEN on ifup... Now the funnier stuff: After deinstalling Networkmanager-kde4-libs it suddenly DID work on ifup.


Secondly: The KDE Network Management does NOT work fine for very many people, including me. Asus UL80AG with ath9k. Wifi worked moderately well on openSUSE 11.3. Mobile broadband worked badly. Now, wifi works sameways like on openSUSE 11.3, mobile bb does not work. I have described the details here:
http://susestarter.blogspot.com/2011/03/step-2-need-mobile-broadband-use-gnome.html and here http://susestarter.blogspot.com/p/comment-on-wifi-in-opensuse-114.html.

You can also read the chatlog of another user nikola__. Magically, after desintalling Networkmanager-kde4-libs, his wifi started to work, although it didnt' even via ifup and others blamed kernel and firmware...

Networkmanager-GNOME works perfectly and is very straightforward and clear in it's GUI, imho, KNM/PNM isn't, but that is another subject. PNM is slightly better in the GUI. But why does it cripple the wifi and mobile bb connections?

I am still convinced, that KDE4/Opensuse 11.4 users should switch to nm-applet to be sure they can use wifi and first than blame kernel/firmware.
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Interesting, as my system uses ath9k, although I still run openSUSE 11.3 at this time, and it has no issue connecting to either unsecured or WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK networks.

The versions of NetworkManager shipped in both are very similar (0.8-8 vs. 0.8.2) so there should be no compatibility issues with clients such as KDE Network Management.

In any case, i'd recommend filing bugs in your distributions bug tracker regarding components such as this.


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hi! i also can't connect to WPA/WPE using knetworkmanager, but i'm running Arch-Linux and maybe that i've messed up something..
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openSUSE seems to be using an old version of KDE's networkmanager interface. Those bugs may already be fixed upstream.


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Hello all,

I can confirm that KNetworkManager does not work properly for mobile broadband connections on my system.

I have an X61 tablet running OpenSUSE 11.4 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop 64bit. I have tried two mobile broadband devices:
- Nokia N900
- Telstra BP3-USB

In both cases, adding a new mobile broadband device causes KNetworkManger to crash.

I followed the previously referenced instructions and installed nm-applet, and mobile broadband is working perfectly.

Please let me know if I can provide any other information to help debug this problem.

Thanks,
Tim.
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Do you have the "mobile-broadband-provider-info" package installed?


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I'm running Kubuntu 11.10, just installed, and network is definitively **** (to say the least). At first it wouldn't get through authentication, then I plugged in an ethernet cable (wich did work luckily) and updated the system. Restarted and everything seemed to be working fine. But then suddenly it didn't anymore (the router had given me an ip and all, it just was not connecting). So I plugged in the ethernet again and now it's working (althoug useless since i'm going through ethernet).
I find this completely enraging, it would seem to me that network connectivity should be number One priority for a Linux of any kind, so ok the system looks goo and all but what's the point?
I think that what really anoys me is that the system pretends that everything is working fine (ath9k driver, at922x card etc...) but it isn't, I mean I can understand that the driver for my card would not be available or that something else is going wrong, but LYING !!!! in no other linux have I had such a problem before.
I mean relly how many years did it take do program this already?
Anyway i'll try installing the gnome network manager as i've rarely had any problems with it and hope that everything goes smoothely. I'm just really annoyed about the complete lack of transparency of such a so-called 'open' system. >:(


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