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KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:11 am
Hi everyone...

This is continuation of a post that is already being discussed. Due to some technical reason page 2 is not getting loaded (The forum administrator can have a look at it). So I'm left with no option but to start the remaining as a new post. I'll post the corresponding links in both the post.

To view the former part of the topic visit.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97416

Those of you who came from the old post read ahead

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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:24 am
hi,

This is the screenshot

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The xsession-errors file (please download the .txt file)

http://download1356.mediafire.com/2yelq7c49drg/5ob38ml0fjdarub/xsession.txt
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:24 pm
Here is one of the problems:

kded(1984) Kded::loadModule: Could not load library "kded_networkmanagement" . [ "Cannot load library /usr/lib/kde4/kded_networkmanagement.so: (/usr/lib/kde4/kded_networkmanagement.so: undefined symbol: _ZN19NotificationManagerC1EP14ConnectionListP7QObject)" ]
Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::Changed()

Your Plasma NM package is broken. You must check if you are using old NetworkManager-kde4 package with a new plasmoid-networkmanagement package, that could cause that kind of problem.


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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:01 pm
Hats off... you fished that information out of that whole lot of text.

That can very well be the possibility. And I think I can find it by looking in my package manager.

And here is some information I have

NetworkManager(0.8.2-15.24.1)
NetworkManager-devel(0.8.2-15.24.1)
NetworkManager-glib(0.8.2-15.24.1)
NetworkManager-kde4-libs(0.9.svn1192577-7.2)
NetworkManager-kde4-libs-debuginfo(0.9.1gi20110829-9.1)

plasmoid-networkmanagement(0.9.1git20110829-9.1)
plasmoid-networkmanagement-debuginfo(0.9.1git20110829-9.1)


And for some clarification, I have a serious doubt regarding that NetworkManager still being there even though the plasmoid version is installed. However trying to uninstall it gives me the warning that the plasmoid version will also be uninstalled...
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:34 pm
The issue is in the Networkmanager-kde4-libs, which is a very old version. Ensure that they're up to date. Since you're on openSUSE, what does "zypper info NetworkManager-kde4-libs" say?


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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:19 am
Well this is what i got

Information for package NetworkManager-kde4-libs:

Repository: @System
Name: NetworkManager-kde4-libs
Version: 0.9.svn1192577-7.2
Arch: i586
Vendor: openSUSE
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 1.6 MiB
Summary: NetworkManager client for KDE 4
Description:
Support libraries for KNetworkManager and Network Management plasmoid
KNetworkManager is a KDE 4 applet and connection editor for controlling
network connections on systems that use the NetworkManager servicce
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:15 am
I just deleted everything that has to do with network manager.. installed the stock from DVD, ran an update. replaced the monolithic one with the plasmoid.

Also I just updated Network-manager-kde4-libs to Version: 0.9.svn20110829-8.1

Nothing of this has solved my problem. If can't have a solution may be I'll statisfy myself with what I had.

Frustrated with the way kde releases updates.. why can't we have backward compatiablity.... if we can't have, then update the entire package including all the dependencies. Well, I feel like joining those who call linux a non-user friendly thing. ..

I'm sorry for putting it all down... hope you understand my frustration ... wrestling with this for he last one week and things have just gone worse from bad.
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:32 pm
Look, it was Opensuse guys that created those packates, not KDE and fore sure it was not me or any other Plasma NM developer. I have seen several people having problems with packages created by distributions, specialy by Opensuse and (K)Ubuntu, who insist in shipping very outdated packages even though they are full of already fixed bugs. The package NetworkManager-kde4-libs -0.9.svn1192577-7.2 for example, it is one year old! I myself fixed about 60 bugs since that package were created, including several crashes. It does not help anybody Opensuse letting that package be easily found by any Opensuse user.

You are also using NetworkManager 0.8.2, Plasma NM for NetworkManager 0.8 is unmaintained. Please upgrade to NetworkManager 0.9, which the instructions I gave to you in this post viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97416#p206166 is about.

If you really want to fix this once and for all drop the Opensuse package and compile Plasma NM yourself. Most people who tried compiling by theirselves do not have problems anymore. The fact that Opensuse splits Plasma NM into several packages creates a mess when you use several repositories with several different versions of Plasma NM.


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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:27 am
I had done the update you proposed in the link... thats when when the Network Manager wouldn't start and then you asked me for that screenshot and xsession-errors.

Now I have installed the stock from the DVD as I had nothing else to do...

Could you suggest what I do next ... .. ..and if possible the links to download these packages. ..
(I have only one internet connection which I'm using- mobile broadband). so you may prefer to have me download all the packages and then update with the packages I could download and keep so that I can go through the whole process with out a connection to the internet

Thanks a lot..

And I'll start a post in the opensuse forums regarding the issue of old packages you mentioned... hope we can find a solution to it.... 8)
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:11 pm
I think the easier solution is compile Plasma NM yourself. You can download the latest version from the link in my blog http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/2011/1 ... -0895.html and compile it like this:

tar jxf networkmanagement-0.8.95.tar.bz2
mkdir networkmanagement_0.8.95_build
cd networkmanagement_0.8.95_build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ../networkmanagement-0.8.95
make
make install

Or you can try again to upgrade to a newer package from Opensuse repository. Using the very outdated version from Opensuse 11.4 DVD is just going to cause you more troubles. There are literally dozens of bugs in the Plasma NM from that DVD that were already been fixed, there is no point in insisting in using it.


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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:28 am
I did what you posted and when the system restarted it told me "the system doesn' allow to make DBUS ...something like that. Please contact your administrator or distribution. and that the network manager won't start automatically in the future.

Is there way to fix this.. or we can roll back and start over again..
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:50 pm
I gave you two options (recompile Plasma NM yourself or upgrade the opensuse packages), which one of those two you did? Send me the log file with the complete error message. Error messages are not that usefull if they are cut in half.


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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:17 pm
I had upgraded the opensuse packages much before.

so this is what I did...

uninstalled the existing network manager and complied what I got from the link you gave me... I'll send you the log files soon...
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:30 pm
Hi,

The error message was shown only once. It does not appear anymore and the network manager does not start nonetheless. . As far as I can remember it said that its not allowed make changes to D-Bus Permissions/ specify D-Bus path (i don't remember exactly). It also said that Network Manger will not start automatically in the future, contact your administrator or distribution. Thats all I can recall about the error message.

I am attaching a link to the error file.

http://199.91.154.19/p06sishrxclg/vnmbad4fydvjhle/xsession-errors.txt
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Re: KNetwork Manager - System Tray

Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:11 pm
The Plasma NM debug messages are disabled in your .xsession-errors. You can enable them using the kdebugdialog command. After launching kdebugdialog search for the string network and enable all checkbox that appears.

If NetworkManager does not start then you have a big problem. Are you sure you configured Yast2 to use NetworkManager to manage connections?


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