Hello!

I would like to add my vinyls to the Tellico music collection data without typing all the data. So I tried using the internet search through Music Brainz and Dicogs (with token), but I get no result.
I checked "manually", the vinyls searched are in the data base of both Music Brainz and Dicogs.
I tested it also with the book collection and it runs, at least on google and congress library.

Are there problems or conflicts with both the internet database?

I am using Tellico 3.2.3 in openSuse Leap 15.1
Also tried with Tellico 3.1.4

ninob wrote:I would like to add my vinyls to the Tellico music collection data without typing all the data. So I tried using the internet search through Music Brainz and Dicogs (with token), but I get no result.
I checked "manually", the vinyls searched are in the data base of both MusicBrainz and Discogs.

Both of my test cases for each of those sources seem to work without issue. Can you give me a specific search string or link?

robbystephenson wrote:

ninob wrote:I would like to add my vinyls to the Tellico music collection data without typing all the data. So I tried using the internet search through Music Brainz and Dicogs (with token), but I get no result.
I checked "manually", the vinyls searched are in the data base of both MusicBrainz and Discogs.

Both of my test cases for each of those sources seem to work without issue. Can you give me a specific search string or link?

Hello Robby!

I've just put in follow search at MusicBrainz and Discogs:
String: Laurie Anderson
Look for <Person>
Result in both cases: The search has given no result (my translation of "Die Suche hat keine Übereinstimmung ergeben")

What do you mind with "link"?

ninob wrote:I've just put in follow search at MusicBrainz and Discogs:
String: Laurie Anderson
Look for <Person>
Result in both cases: The search has given no result (my translation of "Die Suche hat keine Übereinstimmung ergeben")

There may be something else going on, maybe a setting that I'm not thinking of. I get results for both.

Hell Robby,

I see, the issue is not in Tellico.
So, I rename now tellicorc.
If the online search runs after that, I'll try to find something "strange" in it.
I'll report the results in few minutes

Experiences update:

1. a) All the Tellico files under the home directories moved in an another partition
b) Tellico 3.2.3 de-installed and after a system newstart again installed
c) a new music collection opened
=> the issue persists

2. a) All the Tellico files under the home directories definitive deleted
b) Tellico 3.2.3 de-installed, instead kde3-Tellico (1.3.6) installed
c) a new music collection opened
=> MusicBrainz is not implemented, Discogs online connection runs

3. a) All the Tellico files under the home directories definitive deleted
b) kde3-Tellico (1.3.6) de-installed, instead Tellico 3.1.4 installed
c) a new music collection opened
=> the issue persists

From my first report:
I also tested the online import with the book collection and it runs - at least on google and congress library

After all these experiences I think, the cause could be in the suse package (compilation?)
I use openSuse Leap 15.1
What do you mind?

ninob wrote:Experiences update:

1. a) All the Tellico files under the home directories moved in an another partition
b) Tellico 3.2.3 de-installed and after a system newstart again installed
c) a new music collection opened
=> the issue persists
...

From my first report:
I also tested the online import with the book collection and it runs - at least on google and congress library

After all these experiences I think, the cause could be in the suse package (compilation?)

Thanks for trying all that out. Yes, I'm not sure what's going on. Good to know that some book searches do work, so it's not a proxy or network issue. And if neither musicbrainz nor discogs work, that says it's not a problem limited to a single data source. So very confusing.

I don't think the opensuse package is built with debug source, but if you run Tellico from a terminal window, do you see any output when you do a search?

robbystephenson wrote:I don't think the opensuse package is built with debug source, but if you run Tellico from a terminal window, do you see any output when you do a search?

For the Tellico version 3.2.3 are there in the KDE Extra repository the debuginfo and debugsource packages, but I don't know, how to activate them.

Launching Tellico from the console brings nothing - no message at all.

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geppino@linux-0gg6:~> tellico
geppino@linux-0gg6:~>

But I made many different attempts and two them were interesting.
I started an OpenSUSE Leap 15.0 live DVD with KDE Plasma and there it was possible to get records from MusicBrainz.
Now I was convinced: the problem is either something in OpenSUSE Leap 15.1 (my OS) or in my KDE settings. So I added a new user. The download from MusicBrainz runs here perfect.

Well, surely something in my KDE settings impedes the right operating of tellico. That is possible, because /home was originally created with an OpenSUSE 42.x

Of course I could now transfer all my activities to the new user. But that makes much work, a lot of hours and it is a source many possible errors (manual copying of the config files for each application).

Maybe can the tellico debug packages identify the wrong / obsolete settings. But I don't kno how to launch them. This would be better for me!

EUREKA !!

I've found, what tellico "hinders" to run the internet search at MusicBrainz, Discogs and maybe at several others online services!

In the general KDE settings there is among others the possibility to configure the browser detection for the http-in-out-module.

If these detection is NOT active, the tellico internet search does not deliver any results. It seems, MusicBrainz and Discogs need some information about the asking client.

Robby, many thanks for the assistance.

Bye!

ninob wrote:If these detection is NOT active, the tellico internet search does not deliver any results

Ah, great discovery! I did not know that. I believe I can add a workaround in Tellico to send its own user agent request. Thanks so much for figuring that out and letting me know!

robbystephenson wrote:

ninob wrote:If these detection is NOT active, the tellico internet search does not deliver any results

Ah, great discovery! I did not know that. I believe I can add a workaround in Tellico to send its own user agent request. Thanks so much for figuring that out and letting me know!

I'll work it in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419319