i've been using kmail for at least 10 years but i'm beginning to regret it big time.

my local mail folder is about 2 gigabytes. the akonadi folder in which all the **** is stored (~/.local/share/akonadi) is about the same size give or take a few mb. first of all, why would someone want to duplicate information, and store it in a mysql database instead of the good old maildir format? second. from time to time, on random ocasions, kmail stops showing the content of local mail folders and attempts to retrieve all content from my imap accounts. again, i've no idea why this **** behavior occurs.

internet is full with people complaining about kmail2/akonadi combo ****, and i wonder why the devs decided to dump the good old usable kmail and move to this **** unstable piece of **** that's called kmail2. it's clear to me that they're some sort of futuțiîngură )

cheers

Your mail contains several different issues: can you try listing them? It's hard to make out what the problems (given that there are more than one) are. If possible, describe exactly the sympthoms you are experiencing.
Also you do not state the PIM version and distribution you're using (important, because some issues are fixed in later versions but not all distros - see Debian / RHEL - ship them). What PIM version are you using?

Lastly, a friendlier tone would be nice: frustrations with software happens (and that is why we also like to help people fix issues in this forum) but there's no need for (censored) expletives or rants, even more so when you are reporting incorrect information (Akonadi does not store mails): in particular these information may also mislead you to where the cause of the problem lies, so it's not just a matter of "being right or wrong".

I would suggest re-reading the forum rules and the KDE Code of Conduct as well.

einar wrote:Your mail contains several different issues: can you try listing them? It's hard to make out what the problems (given that there are more than one) are. If possible, describe exactly the sympthoms you are experiencing.
Also you do not state the PIM version and distribution you're using (important, because some issues are fixed in later versions but not all distros - see Debian / RHEL - ship them). What PIM version are you using?

Lastly, a friendlier tone would be nice: frustrations with software happens (and that is why we also like to help people fix issues in this forum) but there's no need for (censored) expletives or rants, even more so when you are reporting incorrect information (Akonadi does not store mails): in particular these information may also mislead you to where the cause of the problem lies, so it's not just a matter of "being right or wrong".

I would suggest re-reading the forum rules and the KDE Code of Conduct as well.

you say that akonadi does not store emails, then how do you explain the 2gb space that it uses? it doesn't store e-mails, it caches them, or whatever which is the same thing.
i'm not a kmail/akonadi developer and i dont want to. i'm simply using a piece of software that behaves worse than windows 98. sure, it's written in the gpl that the authors provide no guarantee whatsoever that their work will work.
i'm sick of debugging kmail related issues. i want to get the work done, i'm past the point in which debugging a program seemed fun and challenging. i like having a system that simply works.

when you say that some distribution fix 'some issues' you acknowledge the existence of those issues which is exactly my point.

anyways, here's the list of problems
1. ~/.local/share/akonadi takes to much disk space. (as much as local-mail) - why is this necesarry?
2. kmail randomly stops showing the content of local folders and attempts to re-fetch the content of imap accounts
by random i mean: kmail works. meaning it shows every e-mail in local folders and imap accounts, i close kmail, i close akonadi and so on. basically i close the x session and start again, start kmail, akonadi and all the **** and then kmail shows nothing. then i close x session again, kill all processes, start again kmail and it works. but sometimes it doesn't, lol )

gentoo, kdepimlibs-4.14.3, kmail-4.14.3, akonadi-server-1.13.0

i would've changed my tone if the devs would've changed their behavior also. since i migrated to kmail2 i simply can't rely on kmail anymore. internet is full with experiences just as mine. this clearly points something, but it seems that the linux userbase are suffering from the same problems as the windows users - they continue to use a piece of software even if it works like ****. i renounced to use windows because of that. and if someone treats me as a windows user i surely respond the way it deserves. i dont take cr4p just because it's open source and l33t.

anyways thanx for your answer, sure, this is a community forum and you're right about my tone. the devs don't give a .... about the userbase anyways

pulaion - I am sorry for your frustration but this forum has rules, rules that you agreed to adhere to when you signed up for your account.

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Dear Administrators and Managers, would you have the very appreciated kindness to answer the questions posted by Registered Member pulaion. Thank you in advance!

Given everyone mentions the "2Gb" space filled, I assume we're talking about IMAP offline mails? In this case, they're on disk (so not in the Akonadi database) once they're downloaded, if you are using the "download all mails for offline use" option. Sent mails by default are saved on local folders, which is a standard Maildir (again, no database).

Thanks!